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coolbreeze
10-30-2009, 03:52 PM
Except for one positive day the last few days, the market has once again been declining. Is this the beginning of a justified correction?

When one looks at the realities of the continued rise of unemployment, consumer spending continuing to spiral downward, the continued devaluation of the dollar, American's holding on to what cash they have left, the ballooning over valued stocks, along with the fiscal irresponsibility of the radical lunatics setting policy, my guess is yes.

The government falsely takes Americans for complete idiots. Case in point. The government Injects a few billion dollars into the economy by giving away cash to promote new car purchases. The result? The economy looks good for a month and the government continues to announce the worst is over. The problem is, all that cash is from bank bailouts, government handouts and was freshly printed and added to the deficit. It was all newly created cash, right out of thin air. A printing press fabricated Mirage is what our government wants you to believe is an actual economic recovery. I don't buy it. (no pun intended)

If our country's treasure was in a symbolic bank representing the health of the dollar today, and our economy, it would be a bank in flames with the badly needed water of fiscal responsibility nowhere to be found. Until that water is found, maybe in 2010, the flames will continue to spread with more hardships coming at us faster then a speeding comet.

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Max
10-30-2009, 09:28 PM
Scott this is nothing more then Knee Jerk reactions and rise and fall of the dollar value IMHO. I watch the market almost every day and the only thing I can figure is the market has done a huge runup on cheap money the feds are flooding the system with and the rise and falls you see now are just profit taking and dollar value. I do think a major correction is coming at some point. The news yesterday of greater then expected GDP IMHO was all government driven and then today the news that consumers are not buying is a more factual idea of what is coming.

When you combine the market being on the edge with what is sure to follow which is commercial property fixing to tank I think were in for a cold winter but it most likely won't hit hard until January or February.

Remphoto
10-30-2009, 11:03 PM
We've seen the effect of large institutional investors (not individuals) jumping in to grab some return as rates on treasuries are close to non-existent. As I've said before it is a bullish blip in a still bear market.

coolbreeze
10-31-2009, 09:33 AM
We've seen the effect of large institutional investors (not individuals) jumping in to grab some return as rates on treasuries are close to non-existent. As I've said before it is a bullish blip in a still bear market.

I failed to mention that Rem and yes, I believe that's true. The institutional investors are jacking up the market. Let me ask you, what percentage of government bailout / stimulus money do you believe is contributing to the market bubble? I wonder where the market would be without that influx of this freshly manufactured counterfeit treasure. There's still a side of me that believes this is being done to allow more raiding of the treasury and to buy time to allow many get out of dodge before the final meltdown occurs.

Remphoto
10-31-2009, 10:16 AM
I agree with johnny's post. This is all being temporarily being propped up thru cash for clunkers, etc. The underlying factors suck.

Jeb
10-31-2009, 08:49 PM
It is far worse than it appears and soon when all the bums can't get their free money the shit will really hit the fan!

coolbreeze
11-01-2009, 01:28 PM
It is far worse than it appears and soon when all the bums can't get their free money the shit will really hit the fan!

Jeb, people are naive. They actually believe over the next few months things are going to get back to the way they were a couple years ago. Their blind.

I "want" to be wrong (I can't say "hope" anymore) but the shit will be indeed be hitting the fan and it won't be to long now. A few months, maybe two years at the most imho.

gtrman66
11-01-2009, 01:34 PM
Monica Crowly called the current uptick in GDP - the Government Domestic Prop Up! Good call. Her and Pat Buchanan predict another crash is coming in the near future.

Ellenaor Clift however sees the economy crapping out roses.

Jeb
11-01-2009, 03:30 PM
I know that the true GDP correction that follows will be announced after Tuesdays elections for which this phoney number was manufactored. If capitol is not being invested and manufactoring orders are way down and spending by the consumer is hitting an all time low...that only leaves the Govt spending and crap for clunkers! Soon friends you will see inflation rising and a correction that will break your heart!