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HoldHard
02-12-2010, 12:44 PM
This is a different slant, in plain language, on one of my pet peeves that has taken place since "The Messiah" arrived. The budget deficit when Bush departed was $450 billion, which the Democrats found to be appalling, and it was. It is now projected to be $1.85 trillion this year, or four times as much -- the highest ever and equal to the total of all the deficits in the nation's history! This is "Bush's fault"? We haven't even got health care yet, or the "jobs bill" - another form of "stimulus". When will the public wake up to the fact that we can't afford all of this stuff? When will they realize that the only source of revenue that the government has is taxes? If that is not enough, they can borrow (and pay interest) or simply print more - which makes what you have worth less. It's not rocket science, folks.

Here's the scoop on what Obama inherited. (See graph below).

The Washington Post babbled again today about Obama inheriting a huge deficit from Bush, blah blah blah. Amazingly enough, a lot of people swallow this nonsense.

So once more, I'll try a short civics lesson.

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party. They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush, somewhat belatedly, got tough on spending increases. For FY 2009, though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office.

At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets. And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

HH

Max
02-12-2010, 01:32 PM
Oblamea is going to at some point have to stand up and face the issues and stop using the blame game.

coolbreeze
02-12-2010, 02:54 PM
Oblamea is going to at some point have to stand up and face the issues and stop using the blame game.

It won't be before the next presidential election because if there's one thing Obama "Truly Believes", it's that Americans are filled wih supidity and will believe everything that spews from his mouth. He'll continue to blame Bush for years. Unless of course he wises up and realizes Americans aren't the dumb sheep he thinks they are. Personally, I don't believe obama is smart enough to realize that.

Jeb
02-12-2010, 07:36 PM
Punk will not man up!

cajun
02-13-2010, 08:25 AM
Might as well git used to it. "O"boy ain't got the gonads to take reponsiblity for anything. When he starts runnin for re-election, it's gonna be all GW's fault and it was worse than we realized. I just pray the voters see through the smoke an mirrors and throw the socialist out on his big ears.

coolbreeze
02-13-2010, 09:45 AM
Might as well git used to it. "O"boy ain't got the gonads to take reponsiblity for anything. When he starts runnin for re-election, it's gonna be all GW's fault and it was worse than we realized. I just pray the voters see through the smoke an mirrors and throw the socialist out on his big ears.

You know that won't happen because he's told the people he has a
B+.


Hopefully the people will soon realize America deserves an
A+ President, which Obama will never be.

Remphoto
02-13-2010, 09:10 PM
Looks like BHO is falling back on his community organizing skills by following Alinsky's strategies in attempting to trap the Reps. Here is how:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703382904575059573079680544.html?K EYWORDS=kim+strassel

Jeb
02-13-2010, 09:55 PM
What I don't get is why they would fall for it? Rush has been warning them daily and they have already been duped before so why again?

Remphoto
02-13-2010, 10:16 PM
What I don't get is why they would fall for it? Rush has been warning them daily and they have already been duped before so why again?

Unfortunately, some of the Reps have egos like BHO's. They are out to make a name for themselves, party be damned.

cajun
02-14-2010, 08:13 AM
Unfortunately, some of the Reps have egos like BHO's. They are out to make a name for themselves, party be damned.

Yep, and that ego is going to come back and bite them right square in their butts. At our expense.

Danv
02-14-2010, 10:34 AM
What role would you say that Bush or the Republicans played in the current situation?

Max
02-14-2010, 10:42 AM
What role would you say that Bush or the Republicans played in the current situation?


Dan that would depend on what part your talking about. If your talking the financial melt down IMHO more of that points to Clinton then Bush. After all it was Clinton that repealed the Glass Seagull act. Here is a little insight on what that had to do with the current problem.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/bill-clinton-al-gore-and-glass-seagall-repeal-did-democrats-crash-world-economy


It was Barney Franks and several others that really pushed the subprime also. Now don't get me wrong subprime didn't cause the entire mess but the start of subprime lending IMHO started many investments down the wrong path. That is why we still have a huge mess and yet even today the dems are still forcing down bad loans to people that shouldn't have them IMHO.

So you need to be precise about which part you blame Bush for, if you blame him for not undoing what Clinton did then yes your right. If you blame him for standing by and letting the dems cram down the subprime, then yes your right. If your saying his lack of action is the reason we are in this mess, then I agree.

Danv
02-14-2010, 10:54 AM
i actually blame them all for where we have arrived. Dems, Republicans, Clinton, Bush, Wall Street.

Max
02-14-2010, 10:59 AM
i actually blame them all for where we have arrived. Dems, Republicans, Clinton, Bush, Wall Street.

Dan on that I will agree. I think all of them in Washington have forgotten they are supposed to be there to help the country and not themselves.

TaxmanHog
02-14-2010, 11:31 AM
Dan on that I will agree. I think all of them in Washington have forgotten they are supposed to be there to help the country and not themselves.

That is how I am going to judge the new breed of candidates that are coming on-line (Brown & others to come)!

I will be looking for corruption and falling for the narrow minded focus of their individual political machines & their local constituency, I hope they remain pure to the Most important National Concerns!!!!!

Danv
02-14-2010, 04:28 PM
Another little thought on my earlier statement i also blame us. We allow ourselves to be distracted by the meaningless and absurd. For all the bemoaning we do about negative politics it works. We allow them and the media to operate.

right$pecial
02-14-2010, 05:20 PM
Another little thought on my earlier statement i also blame us. We allow ourselves to be distracted by the meaningless and absurd. For all the bemoaning we do about negative politics it works. We allow them and the media to operate.

I absolutely couldn't agree with you more. We have, and have had, the notion that politician is synonymous with crook in this country simply because we as a population have allowed to to continue for so long.......and of course as a whole we are easily distracted from real politics by shock value through the media.

Remphoto
02-14-2010, 09:07 PM
What role would you say that Bush or the Republicans played in the current situation?

I agree with what the others have said. I would like to add that there always have been, and always will be, economic cycles. For many years the economy was moving upward and the inevitable adjustment has been indeed harsh. Bush inherited the end of Clinton's cycle early in his presidency, not to mention the aftermath of 9/11. Conversely, Clinton inherited the rebound in the cycle from Bush #1. BHO inherited a tough economy, but so did Reagan and GWB. Unlike, Obama, they were able to use market strategies to turn the economy around. BHO has used expansion of government and unprecedented government spending with limited impact. He also has failed to put proper focus on the economy, instead putting enormous political resources into programs which will only make the economic situation worse and divide the country, i.e., Cap and Tax and Healthcare.

Jeb
02-14-2010, 09:26 PM
We are not responsible for the dispicable behavior of the sicifant MSM, as they have completely abandoned the truth and are in lockstep with the marxist! We have done all we can by turning them off and turning to FNC and talk radio in numbers that dwarf CNN and their lot! We the people are rising in a conservative ascendency like we have not seen since the two 49 state landslides of President Reagan! Look to yourselves for blame if you like, but I have always fought against the enemies of our freedom both with arms and with pen!

right$pecial
02-14-2010, 09:41 PM
We are not responsible for the dispicable behavior of the sicifant MSM, as they have completely abandoned the truth and are in lockstep with the marxist! We have done all we can by turning them off and turning to FNC and talk radio in numbers that dwarf CNN and their lot! We the people are rising in a conservative ascendency like we have not seen since the two 49 state landslides of President Reagan! Look to yourselves for blame if you like, but I have always fought against the enemies of our freedom both with arms and with pen!

I'm not saying you are guilty of this and I'm not saying I am, but you know that if the majority of Americans had stood up sooner, in the fashion that the tea party people are today, then thee CNNs and MSNBCs of this world wouldn't have found the outlet to stay on the air. I mean hell, how many people voted for BO because he was cool? Is that any way to protect your freedom.

Remphoto
02-14-2010, 09:48 PM
There were a large number of "Sheeple" who voted for BHO. Many of them were on the take -- i.e, hoping he would increase their handouts, and would probably vote for him again if the election were today. The ones who are waking up were people who didn't really pay much attention to what BHO was saying, only that he was an eloquent speaker. The MSM did nothing to disclose what Obama believed or was proposing. He was asked virtually no hard questions during the campaign and was given a free p**** if not tacit endorsements. Suddenly this group are waking up and realizing what Obama's intentions are and where he is taking the country -- and they don't like it.

Danv
02-14-2010, 10:52 PM
Neither side or there media counterparts want to address the issues in a real manner, to do so would be boring and unpopular. One side screams about Bush and the evils while the other side yells socialism, Fascism. Maddow, Olberman, Beck, and Rush are all playing the same game for there respective sides and thats how the politicians want it. They dont try to solve the problems they keep us distracted and blaming the other guy. The right uses fear, patriotism, and family values as thee weapon. The left likes to use racism, and a sense of social justice to beat us over the head. Two heads of the same coin.

Remphoto
02-14-2010, 10:58 PM
Neither side or there media counterparts want to address the issues in a real manner, to do so would be boring and unpopular. One side screams about Bush and the evils while the other side yells socialism, Fascism. Maddow, Olberman, Beck, and Rush are all playing the same game for there respective sides and thats how the politicians want it. They dont try to solve the problems they keep us distracted and blaming the other guy. The right uses fear, patriotism, and family values as thee weapon. The left likes to use racism, and a sense of social justice to beat us over the head. Two heads of the same coin.

The difference is that BHO and company are pointing us toward socialism. Government control over key industries, socialized medicine, expanding government bureaucracy, redistribution of wealth, etc. There is just no other word for it.

Danv
02-15-2010, 08:31 AM
Its not the word its the context in which they put it. None of those guys/gals as an interest in solving things. They have to much invested in the current way. Just look at the latest retarded ass thing they have latch onto. The right, and Palin bashed BO about his teleprompter use. The left was strangely silent. It only seemed absurd to me when he used it to talk to 6th graders. BO talks to Republicans unprompted and does great. The left gushed over his performance and the right was silent. Palin gets caught writing shit on her hand and the Left attacks and tells us why we should care. So Fox finds a Dem who did it to. I dont care about any of this. My veiw of Palin has not changed since this, but both sides will latch on to something meaningless like this to keep us distracted.

Im not so much thrown off by the fact that Palin wrote noted on her hand, but that she seemed to have needed notes to remember tax cuts. That has been a main plank in the platform for 30 years.

Remphoto
02-15-2010, 09:10 AM
Come on Dan -- what is fair is fair. After decrying pettiness, you ended your comments with a swing at Palin writing on her hand. :) So in fairness, I will point out about BHO always using a teleprompter -- the high-tech equivalent to writing on one's hand. In reality, with the scrutiny Palin and BHO receive, they must be very careful what they say and have chosen to use prompts.

Satirizing the opposite party is an old American customer going back to our Founding Fathers. Do a little research on the old political cartoons and newspaper reports and you will see the current name-calling is quite mild.

Danv
02-15-2010, 09:23 AM
I didnt say she was stupid or anyhting for it. I guess i should have said i found it amusing. Comparing old political cartoons and newspapers to what we have today is impossible. They had no where near the impact of what the numerous 24 hour news channels.

MYCAR47562
02-17-2010, 09:21 AM
personally i wouldn't go up in front of a bunch of people with out something like that writen on my hand. but i have a problem of forgetting words sometimes when im nervous