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cajun
12-03-2008, 05:28 AM
Chambliss won in Georgia, at least the demarats won't have a filibuster proof majority.

dmlkm
12-03-2008, 07:05 AM
Chambliss won in Georgia, at least the demarats won't have a filibuster proof majority.

Yes, that is good.

MYCAR47562
12-03-2008, 07:18 AM
your all welcome

MYCAR47562
12-03-2008, 07:20 AM
you know i think i would have voted democrat if it was the other way around i think its wrong that any party should have that much control over things seems like there should be a law about it.

gtrman66
12-03-2008, 07:25 AM
I'm glad... in a way. You know if the Dem's had it "all" then they could not blame the rep's for anything. In 4 years there would be a landslide victory for the rep's. Now, they'll blame the rep's for "blocking" them from doing the people's business.

MYCAR47562
12-03-2008, 07:32 AM
I'm glad... in a way. You know if the Dem's had it "all" then they could not blame the rep's for anything. In 4 years there would be a landslide victory for the rep's. Now, they'll blame the rep's for "blocking" them from doing the people's business.

coming from the guy who gets to leave the states. why dont you joke about it when you have no plans to go anywhere

gtrman66
12-03-2008, 08:01 AM
My plans for Ireland are on hold (thank you economy). I'll probably be around for a while. I wasn't kidding, you watch - the dems will blame the rep's for blocking them. They did it before, and they'll do it again.

MYCAR47562
12-03-2008, 08:06 AM
i know but what can we do about it sorry to hear about ireland

Remphoto
12-03-2008, 10:59 AM
My plans for Ireland are on hold (thank you economy). I'll probably be around for a while. I wasn't kidding, you watch - the dems will blame the rep's for blocking them. They did it before, and they'll do it again.

I agree with you that the Dem's will use this as an excuse. Of course even if they had the 60 votes they would still find a way to blame future issues on the Republicans. On the bright side, maybe the legislation blocked by Chamblis' (and hopefully Coleman's) election will keep the Dems from passing some of their ideas, which will absolutely block the country's economic recovery -- not to mention blocking judicial appointments (one can only shudder at the types of candidates they will put up.)

gtrman66
12-03-2008, 12:02 PM
Yes. it is good if they block some of the economic measures... but they have already proven they won't now that the proposed bailout spending is near $8 trillion. That was bipartisan, not good for the economy, not good for the country, and not good for my kids who will still be paying for this long after I'm gone.

The next 3 judges most likely to step down are all on the left, so it would be an even swap at best.

The G
12-03-2008, 03:26 PM
shit :)

The G
12-13-2008, 07:13 PM
Who do we blame for the last 8 years ?

cajun
12-14-2008, 06:00 AM
You blame W, But things were not that bad till the dems took over in congress and the senate. It all goes back to Freddie and fannie if you can be honest about it. But honest and Demarat go together like oil and water. I know you think i bash Demarats all the time G, but my whole family and me included were Demarats till the 80's when the party started leaning left. The southern Demarats used to be conservative, you could'nt find a republican in the south. But if you look at the red and blue maps now ,the south is predominatly red. My family used to preach that the demarats are for the workin man and the republicans are for the rich,but now the dems want a socialist nation. Nationalizing businesses is a big step in that direstion.I.E. banks and Detroit.

The G
12-14-2008, 06:39 AM
What I don't understand is the conservatives talk about reducing spending and to the best of my knowledge they spend more than the dems. When they spend they don't do anything to make sure their spending is paid for. Prime example is the "No child left behind" they set this up and put the cost on the states. The issue I keep hearing is guns, abortion, church, etc. What has the rep done to correct your issues ? Bush had control of both houses before Jefferys went independent and could have pass any legislation they wanted but didn't. It seem they drag you guys along to get your vote and do nothing they talk about during the campaigns.

I haven't seen a tax cut I've notice with the exception of the tax rebates they sent the last couple of years. I'm tired of all the spending and leaving our kids in debt just like the rest of you guys. Maybe I'm missing some here but it doesn't happen like all the people are talking about. The dems didn't add a whole lot of addition spend during the last couple of years while being in charge of the houses.

cajun
12-14-2008, 07:07 AM
That,s why BO is going to be in the The white house, the Republicans did'nt come out an vote. You bring up a very valid point, We worked our butts off for years to get the majority,the dems had the house and senate for 40 years, we finally had a republican president,the house and senate, and the stinkin polititions pissed it all away. First off Bush is not a conservative, he went in with the attitude go along to get along, he let Ted Kennedy and John McCain go crazy with the education dept, doubled the spending there. And it went on and on. The Republicans did'nt have the backbone to stand up to the Dems.The dems were having press confreses every other day like they were in the majority. they did'nt even have the backbone to stand up for Judicial nominees.Bush's judicial nominee's are still in waiting and will never be confirmed. I hate to say it but the Dems are a lot better a politics than the Rep. So we get screwed again,this time by our own party. Just like the immagration they tried to ram down us.Now that the dems are in control they will pass the amnesty to get there votes, screw what the people want,or whats good for our country. Then we get handed John McCain for our candidate,hell he's as liberal as they come.So the conservatives did'nt have a dog in this hunt.I have gotton off subject but yes you are right G, the republicans have spent like drunk sailors. And no were not happy about it either. But BO said the other day, we don't need to worry about the defacit, we can go ahead with healthcare and the other programs he has planned.

The G
12-14-2008, 07:48 AM
Immigration is an issue that should be fixed by sending them home, NO free passes here. There are a lot of jobs out there that American would be glad to do.

Health care should be fixed, I'm not saying it should be forced on anyone but the cost has just gotten out of hand . Drug company report giant profits that rival the oil companys. They are humping the American people, if the cost would be controlled it would help the whole country. When we can go into Canada and get the same drugs cheaper than what we pay here this is just wrong.This would make it easier on Americans with out health care, elderly etc. This would also help us in the manufacturing industry when we go to the table for negotiation. In turn this would make the products more affordable to the consumer. The problem here is drug company's and health care systems are making a lot of money and won't let it go with a big fight. We are the only major country that doesn't have a national health care system, I know people will bitch that the government will muck it up it will cost us more by paying additional taxes and it won't work. We have a system in place now that our elected and government employees enjoy and it works. But I see that our elected officials don't want us to enjoy the same system that they use. This is nothing but hypocrisy at its worst.

vrodderD
12-21-2008, 09:06 PM
With our sue happy country and folks not wanting to take responsibility, you can bet your azz healthcare will only get more expensive. 1 Doc has to hire 10 staffers to take care of regulatory documentation and insurance. Not to mention insurance for when he makes a mistake and someone sues him for his shirt.

Lots of things have to be considered before taking on healthcare. There is no silver bullet, but one thing is for sure. If we keep spending money like we are bailing out all these failing companies, the dollar won't be worth shite and then the real hurting begins.

MYCAR47562
12-22-2008, 07:29 AM
i dont think you relize what obama's plan will intale, you will continue to have your healthcare while poor people get on this system everything will be great first couple of months until the goverment runs out of money then. here comes a second social security tax. just like in germany

vrodderD
12-22-2008, 02:38 PM
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that taxes will be lower or even remain the same in the next 4 years. It's like wrinkles, they are inevitable.