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HoldHard
07-13-2011, 08:27 AM
In a grandstanding move, Mr. Obama said during a CBS interview (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20078789-503544.html) that there will not be enough money in the government coffers to pay the Social Security checks, military retirement and disability payments to American citizens if he does not get the debt ceiling raised.

Treasury officials have said the government would only be able to spend the money it brings in each day through revenue if the debt ceiling isn't increased. The government is scheduled to pay $23 billion in Social Security benefits on Aug. 3, and it is only expected to bring in $12 billion that day in tax revenue, according to the Bipartisan Policy Center.

Link (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303678704576441833014116822.html?m od=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories)


So the President just said, to the world, the United States can't pay it's own people the money that was deducted from their paychecks when they were tax-paying workers. The government cannot pay the retired military who laid their life on the line to protect this country. The government cannot take care of the disabled, those that need a social net to exist. (Well Obamacare would just kill them off anyway....let's just speed up the process starting on August 3rd, 2011... Why wait two more years?)

Let's put this in simple terms. The House Republicans want to get the debt under some semblance of control. The world is watching and countries like China (who holds billions of US debt) are sitting there rubbing their collective hands, hoping that financial devastation puts an end to their greatest enemy.

Meanwhile the occupant of the Oval office continues to act like he's a teenager that just got 50 new credit cards and is trying to max them all out before the end of the week. All the negotiations are about reducing or cutting government spending over the next 10 years!!!! How about we start cutting the entitlements in the next 10 months???

Again, the occupant of the Oval office continues to lie during his own meetings. Example:

Cantor, who is advocating a smaller deal, at one point demanded that Obama offer the details of his vision for a “grand bargain.”

“Where’s your paper?” he asked angrily.

Obama snapped back: “Frankly, your speaker has it. Am I dealing with him, or am I dealing with you?”

Boehner spokesman Michael Steel later said that the White House has not supplied Boehner with a detailed plan.

Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/debt-talks-show-growing-gap-between-white-house-gop/2011/07/12/gIQAbKuiAI_story_1.html)

What a surprise. He lied.

"After years of discussions and months of negotiations, I have little question that as long as this president is in the Oval Office, a real solution is probably unattainable," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in remarks on the Senate floor.

Link (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20078766-503544.html?tag=re1.channel)


Let me translate that little piece of political-speak: He lies.

He wants to put everything off, exactly like Obamacare, until 2013 so the American people who are always focused on the next ten minutes will ignore what is happening.

“Nobody’s looking to raise taxes right now,” Obama said. “What we have talked about is that starting in 2013, that we have gotten rid of some of these egregious loopholes that are benefiting corporate jet owners or oil companies at a time where they’re making billions of dollars of profits.

Link (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/170841-debt-talks-hit-brick-wall-obama-gop-trade-jabs)

Yeah, that's the ticket. Let's raise corporate taxes and bring a complete halt to the economic recovery. All in the name of punishing "corporate jet owners and oil companies".... those guys that meet payroll and thereby are paying government taxes! At least he stays in character. His lips move. He lies.

No wonder negotiations are at a standstill. The Idiot-In-Chief doesn't have a friggin' clue....

HH

TaxmanHog
07-13-2011, 12:02 PM
HH, nice summary of the facts, Grab Your shorts folks!

HoldHard
07-13-2011, 01:28 PM
Washington gets $200 billion a month, Social Security costs $50 billion a month, and Obama is threatening to starve Grandma?

By: Mark Tapscott | Editorial Page Editor Follow Him @mtapscott | 07/12/11 5:56 PM

President Obama told CBS News today that he "cannot guarantee that those [Social Security] checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it."

But wait just a minute. If Washington receives about $200 billion in monthly revenues and sends out roughly $50 billion worth of Social Security checks and the same amount of Medicare payments, why is Obama claiming the checks may not go out?

Isn't $200 billion minus $100 billion still $100 billion?

Because Obama is playing the demogogue, that's why. Pure and simple. He is trying to scare seniors into making panicked calls to their congressmen begging them to do whatever Obama and the Democrats want in order to keep the checks coming.

This is demogoguery of the worst sort because Obama has to know that what he is saying is false. When you and I say something we know to be false, it's called a "lie."

Clearly, it is of no matter to Obama that hiking taxes and raising the national debt limit very likely will keep millions of Americans unemployed and hobble the economy for years to come. All he has to do is scare enough voters long enough to get through the November 2012 election to get himself re-elected.

Here are the facts, as reported by MarketWatch and the Bipartisan Policy Center. You do the math:

* The federal government receives approximately $200 billion in revenues each month.

* Interest on the national debt in August will be approximately $29 billion.

* Social Security will cost about $49. 2 billion.

* Medicare and Medicaid will cost about $50 billion.

* Active duty military pay will cost about $2.9 billion.

* Veterans affairs programs will cost about $2.9 billion.

If you've been punching buttons on your calculator, you know that still leaves $39 billion each month. This is where Obama and the Democrats most fear to go. If Congress doesn't agree to raise taxes and the national debt limit, they will then have to make the tough choices about which of the remaining programs gets paid or cut and by how much:

* Defense vendors

* IRS refunds

* Food stamps and welfare

* Unemployment benefits

* Department of Education

* Department of Housing and Urban Development

* Department of Justice, etc. etc.

In sum, federal spending would have to be cut about 44 percent. For more on this, go here and here.

So the next time you hear Obama, or Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, or Sen. Charles Schumer, D-NY, or House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, or any of the multiple Democratic echo chambers in the liberal mainstream media, remember - what they are saying is pure demogoguery.


or as translated... lies.

Link (http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/07/washington-gets-200-billion-month-social-security-costs-50-billio)

HH

Motive
07-13-2011, 02:31 PM
So, he's threatening not to pay back any of the money that has been involuntarily taken from my checks for my "retirement", since I've been getting paid taxable income?

nelson
07-14-2011, 02:43 PM
Good work HH.

Yesterday Obama reportedly threw a tantrum and stormed out of the debt talks (link (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110714/D9OFC8A00.html)). The AP portrays our President very kindly, as though he is even dignified, but other sources claim he has turned the Oval Office into a sandbox by pouting and fretting when he can't get his way. (After watching Obama as president for nearly two and a half years, I tend to believe the pouting and fretting accounts.)

Now they Dem strategy is to denigrate Eric Cantor (link (http://www.rollcall.com/news/reid_slams_cantor-207316-1.html)).

I hope the Republicans DO NOT CAVE. Make Obama own this. The default, which we have earned, will be remembered as having taken place during the Obama presidency.

HoldHard
07-15-2011, 08:28 AM
The Obama Downgrade

Now Mr. Obama is using the debt-ceiling debate as a battering ram not to control spending but to command a tax increase. We're told the White House list of immediate budget savings, the ones that matter most because they are enforceable by the current Congress, are negligible. His offer for immediate domestic nondefense discretionary cuts: $2 billion.

As for Mr. Obama's proposed entitlement cuts, they are all nibbling around the edges of programs that are growing far faster than inflation. He's offering few reforms that would make a difference in the long run. Oh, and ObamaCare is untouchable, despite its $1 trillion in new spending over the next several years, growing even faster after that.

Even if this debt-ceiling crisis passes, the threat of a credit downgrade will continue and grow until Mr. Obama changes his policies, or Americans change Presidents.

Link (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304203304576446332084493902.html?m od=rss_opinion_main)

The time is approaching when the financial managers of the world can no longer ignore what this socialist has done. Even if he gets his way and the debt ceiling is raised, without serious financial cuts and the repeal of Obamacare, the United States credit rating will be downgraded.

Our current debt payments are approximately $29 billion a month (or about 15% of the governments "income" per month) at the current interest rate. What will happen to the economy when that interest rate doubles or triples? More threats to starve Grandma? How about withholding pay to military families?

The Imposter-In-Chief will be back telling the American people it's not his fault, it's the Republicans that won't give him another debt ceiling increase. He'll get it by hook or by crook and then he'll be totally amazed when Moody's and Standard and Poor's downgrade the credit rating because they see no fiscal responsibility from this President.

Wow.... Am I watching Pawn Stars and they are negotiating over the price of a Civil War musket?

No, it's the economic fate of the nation on the brink of the abyss.....

The immediate need is to reduce the government's expendatures by $4 trillion. Then and only then will the financial world agree that the government is serious about living within it's means and a Constitutional amendment enforcing a balanced budget will be adopted.

Meanwhile, we have these two professional politicians, Reid and McConnell "crafting" Plan B which just gives Obama the ability to raise the debt ceiling on his own in three steps, but without attaching any spending cuts.

That's like giving another credit card increase to the Community-Organizer-In-Chief without checking to see if he's employed!!!

Do we really want these guys to represent the financial future of this country? That plan does not bring us back from the edge, it just jumps into the abyss.... head first!!!

http://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nation.foxnews.com/files/styles/dv1/public/McConnell_Reid_AP.jpg

Since Boehner said that there is no need for a Camp David meeting this weekend, (link (http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/14/boehner-says-no-need-for-a-camp-david-summit/)) I'm beyond certain O'boy will go golfing..... again.

HH