Will Israel attack Iran within the next few days?

[nelson]

This is always rumored to happen. But pay attention to the timing.

The IAEA chief predicted Iran would reach nuclear weapons ability within 6 months. That prediction was made in June of 2008. Mohamed ElBaradei actually said they'd have to expel international inspectors first, which is wishful thinking. Do we really think everything Iran does is visible to international inspectors? The fact is, he saw the possibility. (Wired (http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/06/iaea-chief-iran.html), National Terror Alert (http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/06/26/iran-could-have-nuclear-weapon-in-6-months-iaea-chief/))

The sitting US President, George W. Bush, has long been an ardent supporter of Israel. Barack Hussein Obama is scheduled to become the US president next Tuesday, Jan. 20. This is a significant development in the context of the middle east. Obama's father was a muslim, and regardless of the extent of Obama's whitewashed muslim ties, they are without a doubt stronger than those of any past US president. Anyone who thinks Obama's background doesn't play into world events is living a politically correct pipe dream. But more importantly, Obama is an absolute unknown quantity with regard to foreign policy, and especially regarding conflicts involving Israel and the middle east. We all certainly hope he will continue the USA's strong support of Israel, but the fact is we have only campaign promises, and we elected this man with zero knowledge of how he would handle such conflicts.

Meanwhile, Hamas has attacked Israel from Gaza and, as reported today, now Lebanon (Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479856,00.html)). The new front complicates matters in Israel's ongoing Gaza conflict, which interestingly did not begin until after the US election results. Multiple fronts could weaken any Israeli resolve to open yet another one with Iran.

If Israel were to strike Iran, this would bring us to uncharted modern territory. But if Israel does not strike Iran's nuclear facilities within the next few days, here's what we know for certain:
- Iran will have nuclear weapons capability
- Iran has threatened to blow Israel to smithereens
- Israel's strongest supporter, the USA, will have a new president with unknown positions and family ties to the religion of Islam

So what's the word? Do you think this will happen?
If it does not, will Iran bomb Israel?
If it does, how will Iran respond, and how will the US respond?

[gtrman66]

The way I see it, Israel will hit Iran before the coronation. I guess we'll have to wait and see though.

[MYCAR47562]

i honestly don't know but that is a scary situation because i wouldhate to become enemy's with isreal. those dude's are vicous their military is one of the best in the world.

[nelson]

The way I see it, Israel will hit Iran before the coronation. I guess we'll have to wait and see though.I almost think they should, considering all of the circumstances.

But what kind of situation would this create around them?

[nelson]

i honestly don't know but that is a scary situation because i wouldhate to become enemy's with isreal. those dude's are vicous their military is one of the best in the world.Yes their military is disciplined, and not hamstrung by social experimentation or political correctness. Probably more effective than ours at this point.

[alabama]

israel will not strike Iran before the israeli elections.
they would never go into a situation that they cannot control only to run for office after 1 month of potentially catastrophic conflict.
the few rockets from Lebanon was a blip and Gaza they can stop the conflict anytime they like, Iran would not be the same ballpark

[gtrman66]

There are too many variables. Do we get involved? Does Egypt? Does Saudi? Does the UN (yeah right), does Europe? It is one incredibly scary situation. I think in almost every scenario Israel comes out on top, but at what price? You can only pick on a country that powerful for so long before they say "enough".

[nelson]

israel will not strike Iran before the israeli elections.
they would never go into a situation that they cannot control only to run for office after 1 month of potentially catastrophic conflict.
the few rockets from Lebanon was a blip and Gaza they can stop the conflict anytime they like, Iran would not be the same ballparkYou are right - Iran would be a major undertaking, although I have the feeling with Israel any such strikes would be surgical, targeting nuclear facilities only.

Or, another take, could open war with Iran postpone elections within Israel?

[MYCAR47562]

You are right - Iran would be a major undertaking, although I have the feeling with Israel any such strikes would be surgical, targeting nuclear facilities only.

Or, another take, could open war with Iran postpone elections within Israel?

ID BE WILLING TO LEND ISREAL MY GUN TO HELP IN TAKING CARE OF IRAN

[scol]

Dam!!

[cajun]

I heard on the news today that hamas has agreed to an unconditional cease fire. That usually means one thing, there gettin there clocks cleaned. I really thought Israel would have hit Iran by now,while GW was still in the WhiteHouse so they would be sure of our support. I read an artical the other day that stated the US was holding Israel back.Why,I don't know. But Russia is helping Iran and this could really turn into a mess. I believe when Iran has a nuke it will use it on Israel. Oh an one other thing about us holding them back, Israel asked for permission to fly over Iraq to bomb Iran an the US told them no. So go figger.

[MYCAR47562]

Well Then Sounds Like They Have Planes To Do Just That

[gtrman66]

Hamas always wants a cease fire to reload. It's has never been about "peace".

[MYCAR47562]

Sounds To Me Like Isreal Just Needs To Finish Them Off.

If It Were Me I Would Tell Them You Have 72 Hours To Get Out Before We Carpet Bomb Your Asses

[TaxmanHog]

Oh an one other thing about us holding them back, Israel asked for permission to fly over Iraq to bomb Iran an the US told them no. So go figger.

Too many political complications with IRAQ, if USA allowed Israel to use that air space.

[vrodderD]

Honestly, I think they were trying to provoke an attack by Iran. Since GW didn't give them the go ahead to attack, I believe they started mopping up Gaza to see if Iran would go postal. Then they would be more than justified to unleash the dogs. Just a theory.

[The G]

They won't attack Iran.

[MYCAR47562]

They won't attack Iran.

i guess time will tell

[nelson]

With the inauguration taking place on Tuesday, it doesn't look like they will. At least not for now!! We will see what happens when Iran gets the nuke. Will they dare to use it? Israel is pretty small - enough strategic bombs could totally obliterate them.

It remains to be seen is how Obama will position the US in this ongoing conflict. I hope nothing changes. Israel needs no less than our unwavering support in order to survive in this primitive part of the world.

[scol]

Hamas always wants a cease fire to reload. It's has never been about "peace".

Absolutely correct, what a fukkin mess

[gtrman66]

I was wrong. No attack on Iran.

[nelson]

No attack - but we haven't heard from Obama, either. Let's see where he stands on Israel vs. the Arabic world.

[cajun]

You might have been wrong, but. I think the US was holding Israel back. With the instability in that area i think they may have been lookin at the big picture. That whole area is a damn mess right now. We don't really know what Russia's thinkin or China. Pakistan and India are shaky. The whole area is a ticking time bomb. Israel will probably suprise everyone and strike when we least expect it. But if we don't do something,Israel will take care of business.

[MYCAR47562]

You might have been wrong, but. I think the US was holding Israel back. With the instability in that area i think they may have been lookin at the big picture. That whole area is a damn mess right now. We don't really know what Russia's thinkin or China. Pakistan and India are shaky. The whole area is a ticking time bomb. Israel will probably suprise everyone and strike when we least expect it. But if we don't do something,Israel will take care of business.

LET THEM, IM WILLING TO BET THEY WON'T REBUILD THEIR COUNTRY AFTERWARD THOUGH WELL PROBALLY END UP FIXING EVERYTHING

[nelson]

Wow, check this out!

Obama urges Israel to open Gaza borders
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7cf745dc-e8ce-11dd-a4d0-0000779fd2ac.html

On his 2nd day in office Obama stated:Gaza’s border crossings should be open to allow the flow of aid and commerce, with an appropriate monitoring regime, with the international and Palestinian Authority participating.

This changes things. Have other Presidents ever publicly pushed Israel this way?

[scol]

Wow, check this out!

Obama urges Israel to open Gaza borders
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7cf745dc-e8ce-11dd-a4d0-0000779fd2ac.html

On his 2nd day in office Obama stated:

This changes things. Have other Presidents ever publicly pushed Israel this way?

Maybe Jimmy Cater really not sure, anyone?

[nelson]

Obama urges Israel to open Gaza borders
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7cf745dc-e8ce-11dd-a4d0-0000779fd2ac.html


http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...ent-ob-10.html

BO's first formal TV interview as prez and he does it on raghead tv.I'm not against a change in policy. In fact we all expected it. So far it's pretty drastic; we're only 6 days into the new administration.

[right$pecial]

Yes their military is disciplined, and not hamstrung by social experimentation or political correctness. Probably more effective than ours at this point.

That depends on how you define effectiveness. Let's see what happens when the media is left at home and we don't have both hands tied behind our backs.

As I see it our military is only ineffective because our society has lost most of its' grit and no longer recognizes the value of real men and women.

[MYCAR47562]

your right we would have all of our soldiers trained like the israels do if it wasn't for these pancy waste's that are running things lately.

[right$pecial]

That's my point. It is not a training issue. We are very well trained, but just prior to hitting the shit we are subjected to sensitivity trainers and legal types who tell us: You can absolutely do what you were trained to do, that's what you're here for. HOWEVER, you can only do so if condition 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,etc are met first. You don't always have time to think about those conditions when SHTF and are specifically vulnerable the first couple of times you make contact. Unfortunately, the first time can also be the last time in this particular area of life.

[Johnny Dangerously]

That's my point. It is not a training issue. We are very well trained, but just prior to hitting the shit we are subjected to sensitivity trainers and legal types who tell us: You can absolutely do what you were trained to do, that's what you're here for. HOWEVER, you can only do so if condition 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,etc are met first. You don't always have time to think about those conditions when SHTF and are specifically vulnerable the first couple of times you make contact. Unfortunately, the first time can also be the last time in this particular area of life.
Yep, that's what happens when politicians get involved.

[TaxmanHog]

That's my point. It is not a training issue. We are very well trained, but just prior to hitting the shit we are subjected to sensitivity trainers and legal types who tell us: You can absolutely do what you were trained to do, that's what you're here for. HOWEVER, you can only do so if condition 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,etc are met first. You don't always have time to think about those conditions when SHTF and are specifically vulnerable the first couple of times you make contact. Unfortunately, the first time can also be the last time in this particular area of life.

A real warrior would & should push that crap out of their minds and execute based on their primary training!

I wonder how long these sensitivity/legal-beagles would last under fire on the front line?

Not Long.

[right$pecial]

A real warrior would & should push that crap out of their minds and execute based on their primary training!

I wonder how long these sensitivity/legal-beagles would last under fire on the front line?

Not Long.

Well that's probably why our casualty list isn't ridiculously higher...

As far as your next comment. I once had to show a Major how to open the door to a Humvee if that tells you anything.