Zarqawi Dead

[nelson]

6/8/2006: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Killed in Bombing Raid (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198651,00.html)

Is it wrong to celebrate a man's death? What if that man epitomized evil, sought to kill and decapitate innocent human beings, kidnapped and twisted your religion in the eyes of the world, or led a war against your very survival?

[Captain Dan]

The real question is, how long before we start hearing about investigations into "unnecessary collateral damage"?

[Lonnie]

I'm sure it wont be too long, i would bet the coward was hiding among women and children. BTW Ive been celebrating all day long!!!

[Lonnie]

Great Vid here

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=a956a89e-6ced-4c79-8314-ecf26f09351b&t=&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_m_zarqawi&GT1=8211

[Teiwaz]

Good riddance. Guy was a fanatic and a sociopath.

[The_Man]

For the crimes that he committed he got off easy with respect to the means to which he met his end. The world is a better place without him in it. I celebrate justice.

[Freethinker]

With his death, a trial was avoided that would serve to unite and motivate the terrorist movement. I think his passing will be considered martyrdom by his followers, but at least his voice was silenced and cannot serve as a rallying cry.

I have mixed emotions clebrating one's death. It scares me that to think that in the dark part of my soul, I can celebrate death..........

["shazbat"]

All I can think of is what should be engrave on his headstone other than RIP.
How about BIH "burn in hell"

[Sonrisa]

I agree with Freethinker, but I do not enjoy looking dead bodies up close, not even his, while I'm eating dinner......not compassionate, just a weak stomach.

Why not rejoice? I would never have held back or shed a tear when Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, or any of them died. Since as an atheist I am not encumbered by notions of "Christian charity" or the like I can revel to my heart's content.

I think it is a given that any of the terrorist leaders who die will be celebrated by their followers as martyrs. I do not, however, his death has solved everything, just one less with many more to go. That kind have an endless supply of replacements. I am sure it gave our troops a morale boost they desperately need, and hopefully it slowed down our enemies at least a little.

For a supposed liberal I have to tell you I think Harry Truman did a very necessary thing dropping the bomb. From everything I've been told and read, WWII was won by a not so wide margin.

Sonrisa

[Sonrisa]

I am not sure on what thread I made a statement about having a book on Islam that I then threw out......well, evidently I didn't (very hard for me to throw a book away)....I had just intended to. Now I will read it between selling this house, and the other 10 million things I'm caught up in now. i can't recommend it because I haven't read it yet, but the name is "Understanding Islam - An Introduction to the Moslem World" by Thomas W. Lippman. It is a slim paperback volume, easy to find time to read. I'll let you know how it goes. It might give me a basic understanding of their religion, philosophy and culture.

Sonrisa :)

[jarhead]

JUSTICE SERVED!!!!!! islam is bad evidently, kill the infadel?? the book preaches killing anyone who does not believe.

[nelson]

JUSTICE SERVED!!!!!! islam is bad evidently, kill the infadel?? the book preaches killing anyone who does not believe.I confess, I agree with the consensus. Good riddens. I do not believe every human being has some redeemable value. Evil exists, and war is terrible, but necessary, even by the Bible. This man got what he deserved.

[Sonrisa]

I am glad he is gone, and Islam may very well be bad, but in the book I am reading, it does not say that -- so far -- it says that they are duty bound to protect THEIR RELIGION. It does not say how, and we are not attacking their religion. This book was written in 1986. It goes into the beginning in the 7th century when it was founded.

The astonishing thing is how very much like Judaism and Christianity is it, came from the same roots, has some of the same prophets, the big difference is they do not believe that god had progeny, i.e., the divinity of Jesus Christ or the concept of a trinity. They also do not have an equivalent of the Pope and even though some of their caliphs are shit-disturbers in real life, in the actual religion that command no power and are not considered to be of any special status. They do not have sacraments, nor an altar and their mosques are strictly a place to gather to pray which is a big deal.

So far no mention of 72 virgins, nor of killing anyone; in fact the same rules apply so far as in no cheating, stealing, coveting, lusting, etc., etc. as all religions. All of this of course only applies to the men; women are barely even acknowledged at all, just like almost every other religion except Druids and Wicca. The islamic women mostly pray at home and I don't know what they get when they get to paradise. They have a pilgrimage where the women are actually not allowed to cover their faces, similar to pilgrimages Catholics make. They have a version of hell, in fact it is astonishing how much all religions are alike except in the fine tuning. I suppose like all monsterous murderers they find religion convenient to murdering people and making sure of their power base.

Mohammed was a good man, but not a holy man and is not supposed to be worshipped at all, but like us some of them do because they like to have someone to ask for favors, etc., I suppose.

I'm glad the SOB is dead and no doubt there are many of them are out to kill us all, but so far it is not in their doctrine which is very, very simple....it's when men start imposing their ideas it starts getting tricky.

I remember seeing a documentary on Tibetan buddhism and was struck at the similarity between that and catholicism as they had a service where they handed out pieces of bread, drank something and had prayer wheels and prayer beads instead of rosaries; they chant like the Gregorians, meditate, etc.

The more religions I look into the more they look the same. Just my 2 cents worth. Unlike christianity and judaism, buddhism has no ties to Islam that I can see. I do not subscribe to any of them, so I think I'm pretty impartial. Maybe it will get to what you are all talking about later on. Sonrisa :) P.S. Don't shoot the messenger.

[Sonrisa]

OK NOW we're getting somewhere. It says that Islam is a martial society and that if you succeed in battle that means (to them) that God is on your side.More later. Going by that I would guess this latest defeat is HUGE for them.

I am trying as in all religions or politics to separate the message from the messenger, which are not as we all know necessarily the same thing!

Sonrisa :)