Super Angry

[right$pecial]

I don't mean to be disloyal, but this is not the only political forum I take part in, as I have grown more and more compelled to debate and understand different political points of view. However, sometimes these people make me so very very angry...so angry that I want to fly out of the screen and break their ingrateful noses. Read this quote:

"When the baby boomers die off do you think we will be able to stop pretending to care about World War II?"

His premise was that it would make Europe feel better if we could just forget the war ever happened.

[right$pecial]

Crap, sorry Max. I should have placed this in rants, but I was fighting mad and not thinking straight.

[Johnny Dangerously]

I don't mean to be disloyal, but this is not the only political forum I take part in, as I have grown more and more compelled to debate and understand different political points of view. However, sometimes these people make me so very very angry...so angry that I want to fly out of the screen and break their ingrateful noses. Read this quote:

"When the baby boomers die off do you think we will be able to stop pretending to care about World War II?"

His premise was that it would make Europe feel better if we could just forget the war ever happened.

Yeah, we could forget the war ever happened. But if it hadn't we'd all be bearing Swastikas on our sleeves and speaking German, so... perhaps we'd better remember it eh? :rolleyes:

[right$pecial]

Yes, of course from an educational standpoint we must never forget the past or we are doomed to repeat it. I know it's a cliche' but history does repeat itself and if you know your history you can help counter situations before they get out of hand, but that's not what pissed me off the most. How can someone simply disrespect an entire generation of men and women, across the globe, who gave their lives willingly to protect what they thought was right? Specifically, when said generation is still alive.

[The G]

Screw them

[Johnny Dangerously]

Screw them
Yet another thing we can agree on. I'm liking you more ever day G :D

[right$pecial]

Right, G. Exactly. At least here we tend to quable about the technical side of politics and our own interpretations on how it works. This forum seems interested in political theory and ideology. We all seem to be educated enough, or raised right, or whatever you want to blame it on in a manner that is conducive to debate even if we don't agree with each other.

Can you imagine trying to debate the issues we discuss without a solid foundation. I can only imagine the frustration from having to explain to someone that the Russians didn't bomb Pearl Harbor in order to explain the cold war so that we could finally begin to debate the economic differences between Reagan and Clinton.

[MYCAR47562]

Right, G. Exactly. At least here we tend to quable about the technical side of politics and our own interpretations on how it works. This forum seems interested in political theory and ideology. We all seem to be educated enough, or raised right, or whatever you want to blame it on in a manner that is conducive to debate even if we don't agree with each other.

Can you imagine trying to debate the issues we discuss without a solid foundation. I can only imagine the frustration from having to explain to someone that the Russians didn't bomb Pearl Harbor in order to explain the cold war so that we could finally begin to debate the economic differences between Reagan and Clinton.

I REALLY DISLIKE MOST OF MY GENERATION, THEY HAVE NO SENCE OF WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS WHAT THEY CAN GET AND HOW MUCH THEY CAN DRINK IT'S KINDA DEPRESSING. I BLAME IT ON THE SCHOOLS, WHAT OTHER REASON CAN EXPLAIN OUT OF A GRADUATING CLASS OF 500 ONLY ABOUT 150 ACTUALLY GRADUATING THE REST GETTING A CERTIFICATE OF ATTENDENCE? WE ARE BREEDING LAZYNESS AND NOT HELPING THOSE THAT THEY TO PROSPER IT BELIEVE IT WILL BE MY GENERATION WHO WILL BRING THIS COUNTRY TO IT'S KNEE'S.

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I REALLY DISLIKE MOST OF MY GENERATION, THEY HAVE NO SENCE OF WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS WHAT THEY CAN GET AND HOW MUCH THEY CAN DRINK IT'S KINDA DEPRESSING. I BLAME IT ON THE SCHOOLS, WHAT OTHER REASON CAN EXPLAIN OUT OF A GRADUATING CLASS OF 500 ONLY ABOUT 150 ACTUALLY GRADUATING THE REST GETTING A CERTIFICATE OF ATTENDENCE? WE ARE BREEDING LAZYNESS AND NOT HELPING THOSE THAT THEY TO PROSPER IT BELIEVE IT WILL BE MY GENERATION WHO WILL BRING THIS COUNTRY TO IT'S KNEE'S.

"Certificate of attendance"????? Things are even worse than I thought with the schools. Doggone 'trophy kids" - everyone gets a trophy whether or not they deserve it.:mad:

[right$pecial]

I REALLY DISLIKE MOST OF MY GENERATION, THEY HAVE NO SENCE OF WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS WHAT THEY CAN GET AND HOW MUCH THEY CAN DRINK IT'S KINDA DEPRESSING. I BLAME IT ON THE SCHOOLS, WHAT OTHER REASON CAN EXPLAIN OUT OF A GRADUATING CLASS OF 500 ONLY ABOUT 150 ACTUALLY GRADUATING THE REST GETTING A CERTIFICATE OF ATTENDENCE? WE ARE BREEDING LAZYNESS AND NOT HELPING THOSE THAT THEY TO PROSPER IT BELIEVE IT WILL BE MY GENERATION WHO WILL BRING THIS COUNTRY TO IT'S KNEE'S.

Don't worry MYCAR, it's not as bad as it seems. I suspect we're roughly the same age and almost certainly from the same generation. I graduated from a rinky dink town in Oklahoma from a class of 82. Some of the people whom I graduated with were presumed dead Sophomore year. Come to think of it, some of those people are dead now. However, a lot my buddies are engineers, dentist, orthodontists, you name it. Me, I'm a schitzo sometimes college student sometimes soldier and I have greatly failed to live up to my potential, but damnit I'm not done yet and it's not too late for the rest of our generation either.

I should refrain from pointing out that the average age our generation leaves our families homes is like 27, but we can blame the mortgage crisis when that number jumps to 30.:)

[MYCAR47562]

Yep They Don't Make You Repeat Or Drop Out Now They Will Just Give You A Cert. That Is Completely Useless What's Depressing I Went Back A Few Times The Next Year To See My Sister When I Was In Town From School And I Only Saw 3 People From My Class Who Choose To Go Back And Finish And I Know For A Fact 2 Of Them Didn't Finish

[Johnny Dangerously]

Yep They Don't Make You Repeat Or Drop Out Now They Will Just Give You A Cert. That Is Completely Useless What's Depressing I Went Back A Few Times The Next Year To See My Sister When I Was In Town From School And I Only Saw 3 People From My Class Who Choose To Go Back And Finish And I Know For A Fact 2 Of Them Didn't Finish
Well... all I can say is I dropped out of the 10th grade at 17 (yeah, do the math) to join the Army. They made me get my GED and I turned out OK I guess...;)

[MYCAR47562]

Don't worry MYCAR, it's not as bad as it seems. I suspect we're roughly the same age and almost certainly from the same generation. I graduated from a rinky dink town in Oklahoma from a class of 82. Some of the people whom I graduated with were presumed dead Sophomore year. Come to think of it, some of those people are dead now. However, a lot my buddies are engineers, dentist, orthodontists, you name it. Me, I'm a schitzo sometimes college student sometimes soldier and I have greatly failed to live up to my potential, but damnit I'm not done yet and it's not too late for the rest of our generation either.

I should refrain from pointing out that the average age our generation leaves our families homes is like 27, but we can blame the mortgage crisis when that number jumps to 30.:)

HONESTLY IM THE ONLY PERSON I KNOW THAT I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH WHO ISN'T EITHER LIVING AT HOME OR IN A DRUGHOUSE IM ONLY 22 SO I KNOW THAT NUMBER WILL START TO GO UP ONCE PEOPLE GET OUT INTO JOBS AND STUFF, IT WAS MAINLY DRUGS IN MY SCHOOL. MAYBE THAT'S WHY I FIT IN SO MUCH, I WAS THE REAL LONG HAIR KID WHO DIDN'T SHAVE AND ALWAYS WORE SHORTS AND FLIP FLOPS NO MATTER WHAT

[MYCAR47562]

Well... all I can say is I dropped out of the 10th grade at 17 (yeah, do the math) to join the Army. They made me get my GED and I turned out OK I guess...;)

ARMY WILL HELP ALOT

[Johnny Dangerously]

ARMY WILL HELP ALOT
Sure gave me a boot in the seat of the pants... :eek:

[right$pecial]

Johnny I was 17 in the 10grade and I wish I would've dropped out and gotten a GED. I started late because of my parents' divorce and then got jammed into pre-first which is the stupidest program I've ever encountered. My school obviously misinterpreted the gifted students as somehow unwilling to learn and held us all back a year. What's worse is I can back up the previous statement.

The class ahead of mine, after the pre-first debacle, graduated with four academic standout. My class consisted of somewhere in the neighborhood of 30/82 students who ended up taking college algebra in the 8th grade, participated in the GTI program and most of us got a high enough score on the ACT to get scholarships in the 9th grade, myself included. By 10th grade we were all bored out of our minds, but the school district wouldn't entertain the notion of advancing students to the next grade because that would mean less funding for the school district. And that is the story of how I became a 20 year old freshman who was tired of schooling by the time I got to college and just wanted to drink...hello Army National Guard recruiter get me the hell out of here.

[Johnny Dangerously]

Johnny I was 17 in the 10grade and I wish I would've dropped out and gotten a GED. I started late because of my parents' divorce and then got jammed into pre-first which is the stupidest program I've ever encountered. My school obviously misinterpreted the gifted students as somehow unwilling to learn and held us all back a year. What's worse is I can back up the previous statement.

The class ahead of mine, after the pre-first debacle, graduated with four academic standout. My class consisted of somewhere in the neighborhood of 30/82 students who ended up taking college algebra in the 8th grade, participated in the GTI program and most of us got a high enough score on the ACT to get scholarships in the 9th grade, myself included. By 10th grade we were all bored out of our minds, but the school district wouldn't entertain the notion of advancing students to the next grade because that would mean less funding for the school district. And that is the story of how I became a 20 year old freshman who was tired of schooling by the time I got to college and just wanted to drink...hello Army National Guard recruiter get me the hell out of here.

Well, the Army and National Guard is what got me through college. No help from the family at all, but the GI Bill made it possible for me. Spent 15 years in and don't regret a minute of it (although there are some things I definitely wouldn't want to do again... ) ;)

[MYCAR47562]

I Was 17 In College, My Parents Tried To Hold Me Back One Year But The School Wouldn't Let Them. So Oppisite End Of The Spectrum But Same Thing I Disliked School Due To Being To Young. But I Strayed From The Army All I Wanted To Do Was Drink

[Johnny Dangerously]

All I Wanted To Do Was Drink Me too, but the Army gives you the money to do it... :rofl:rofl

Think about it, I was 17 and stationed in Germany. Dude I had all the drink (and smoke - remember this wasn't too long after Vietnam) you could shake a stick at...

[MYCAR47562]

Lol Yea I Bet That Was Pretty Fun My Budy Was Stationed In Germany For A Year And He Loved It There

[right$pecial]

The Army helps a lot. Without the GI Bill I couldn't finish up, even if my paperwork wasn't screwed to all hell and back. The only issue I have with the National Guard is the way I tend to react too it, and it's just my personal issue. I come back from deployments all fire and rage, but on a positive note I've got the NCO mindset of working hard and standing tall to set a good example for the people around me. A year after deployments I could give a flip if I go to class or go to the bar. So, I've implemented a pattern where I try to deploy then go to school for a year or so, deploy then go to school for a year or so, repeat. Too this end it sometimes feel like I'm going nowhere fast, but hell I got the V out of the deal and even got to rub it in my First Sergeant's face cause his wife wouldn't let him buy one.

[Johnny Dangerously]

The Army helps a lot. Without the GI Bill I couldn't finish up, even if my paperwork wasn't screwed to all hell and back. The only issue I have with the National Guard is the way I tend to react too it, and it's just my personal issue. I come back from deployments all fire and rage, but on a positive note I've got the NCO mindset of working hard and standing tall to set a good example for the people around me. A year after deployments I could give a flip if I go to class or go to the bar. So, I've implemented a pattern where I try to deploy then go to school for a year or so, deploy then go to school for a year or so, repeat. Too this end it sometimes feel like I'm going nowhere fast, but hell I got the V out of the deal and even got to rub it in my First Sergeant's face cause his wife wouldn't let him buy one.

Always good to be able to gloat to Top...;)

[MYCAR47562]

So I Just Found Out You Don't Tell Your Fiancee That She Is So White You Can See Through Her.... It Turns Into Ribs That Hurt

[right$pecial]

Always good to be able to gloat to Top...;)

Ironically, she ditched him after we got home, so he should have listened to me and simply not told her about it.

[Johnny Dangerously]

Ironically, she ditched him after we got home, so he should have listened to me and simply not told her about it.
Sad... I was in Desert Storm. One of the guys in my unit had a wife, a house and a car when he left. When he got back the wife had spent all his money, moved out of the house, sold the car and shacked up with some guy. The poor dude was practically homeless when he got home.

I had just gottena divorce at the time, so I wasn't married and wasn't dating anyone regular. I left someone in charge of my finances while I was gone and of course you have direct deposit when you're in the sand box. I was saving my money for a new car, or so I thought. When I got back that person had spent a huge chunk of my money too. I had some left, but not a lot.

What are you gonna do? You just shrug and move on...

[MYCAR47562]

My Friend In The Army Left His Money Issue To My Mom Because Last Time He Was There His Family Took Him For Over 20k

[Johnny Dangerously]

My Friend In The Army Left His Money Issue To My Mom Because Last Time He Was There His Family Took Him For Over 20k

Yeah, I didn't say it, but it was a family member that did me in too...

[right$pecial]

Sadly, this sort of thing happens all the time. Our divorce rate was astronomical. Something like 90 percent of one our companies got served, even though you're not supposed to be able to do that over there and of course the bank accounts were cleared out.

A lot of Johnny's first scenario took place, while one guy's own mother sold him out. It's a wonder we don't have more violent issues with all the demobilizing troops stateside. If I spent a year in that hell only to come home broke and find some dude f ing my wife and fishing with my kids, I fear someone would get shot.

[right$pecial]

I've got to share this story and I doubt the guy would mind as he was proud about his reaction. It's also a little rusty as he told me this story when I was a PFC.

The dude was a marine during Dessert Storm/Dessert Shield and he gets off the boat back home waiting for his family. Eventually, everyone there is gone but him so he assumes his wife didn't know he was coming home. He catches a cab back home to find the door ajar and the grass two feet high. He asks his neighbors where his wife and kids are and they tell him. Arriving at Jodie's house he puts it all together and goes to get on his Harley, that he for some reason financed over seas, but allowed the wife to insure in his name. The little woman comes storming out and tells the dude that she had the bike's title tranfered to Jodie's name while she was his power of attorney. She does inform him that he can have their spare junker pickup as it is still in his name. He gets in the truck and plows over the Harley repeatedly before driving away.

[cajun]

Good one,poetic justice. To bad jodie was'nt on the bike when he smashed it.:rofl:rofl

[MYCAR47562]

Im Scared I See This Happening To A Friend Of Mine Who Ships Out In A Month He Met This Girl And Was Married In Less Than A Month Something Just Aint Right I Hope Im Wrong

[Johnny Dangerously]

I've got to share this story and I doubt the guy would mind as he was proud about his reaction. It's also a little rusty as he told me this story when I was a PFC.

The dude was a marine during Dessert Storm/Dessert Shield and he gets off the boat back home waiting for his family. Eventually, everyone there is gone but him so he assumes his wife didn't know he was coming home. He catches a cab back home to find the door ajar and the grass two feet high. He asks his neighbors where his wife and kids are and they tell him. Arriving at Jodie's house he puts it all together and goes to get on his Harley, that he for some reason financed over seas, but allowed the wife to insure in his name. The little woman comes storming out and tells the dude that she had the bike's title tranfered to Jodie's name while she was his power of attorney. She does inform him that he can have their spare junker pickup as it is still in his name. He gets in the truck and plows over the Harley repeatedly before driving away.
Nice revenge move, although I hate to see a good bike go to waste like that... :(

[MYCAR47562]

That Wasn't A Waste That Was A Good Purpose For A Bike In That Situation