Obama Won’t Reinstate Assault Weapons Ban

[Oriondk]

Interesting. Not sure if I trust them, though. We'll see.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/Obama-Assault-Weapons-Ban

Obama Won’t Reinstate Assault Weapons Ban
Submitted by jmeasley on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 04:40.

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When asked today during his daily briefing if President Obama would reinstate the assault weapons ban, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs made it clear that Obama was looking at other strategies, such as hiring more police officers, instead of reinstating the ban on assault weapons.

In answer to Helen Thomas’s question about reinstating the ban, Gibbs said, “Obviously, we, while we were overseas last week, were surprised and shocked at the news at what had happened in New York. … That’s one of the reasons that increased money to hire more police officers as in the Recovery Act. I was asked specifically about assault weapons. I think the president would — the president believes there are other strategies we can take to enforce the laws that are already on our books.”

This new position is in direct contrast to an ABC News story in late February that Obama was seeking a new assault weapons ban. Last night on CBS News Attorney General Eric Holder said that he looks forward to working with the NRA, and would not endorse bringing back the assault weapons ban. Obama’s new position is bound to upset many anti-gun Democrats, because then candidate Obama campaigned strongly on reinstituting the assault weapons ban during the 2008 Democratic primaries.

Even though the White House website still mentions reinstituting the ban, the administration seems close to abandoning the idea. At a time when Obama should be focused on the economy, reviving the assault weapons ban issue would only serve as a distraction. If Obama does decide not to revive the ban, it would be a major blow to his critics on the right, who have been spreading rumors that Obama is out to take everyone’s guns away.

By reading between the lines, it is clear that, as much as it may anger those on the left, Obama has no intention of bringing back the ban. It must be pointed out that none of the recent civilian shootings in states like New York and Alabama were carried out with an assault weapon. The ban is more symbolic than it is effective in reducing violence. I agree with the White House that there are better ways to reduce violence than banning assault weapons. If disturbed people want to kill, they will find a way to kill whether assault weapons are legal or banned.
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[MYCAR47562]

snake..... but good im glad he said this

[Freethinker]

Words are cheap. Personally I don't believe him. BUT, I do hope this takes the air out of the BUY and HORDE mentality when it comes to ammo and guns.

Maybe the market will fill up with more ammo now. I can't belive .223 is going for $.50 per round. Insane.

[MYCAR47562]

At Least You Can Get .223, 7.62x39 Is Almost Impossible To Get

[The G]

Words are cheap. Personally I don't believe him. BUT, I do hope this takes the air out of the BUY and HORDE mentality when it comes to ammo and guns.

Maybe the market will fill up with more ammo now. I can't belive .223 is going for $.50 per round. Insane.
ye have little faith :)

[MYCAR47562]

G's Right Obama Want's It At Least A Dollar

[Freethinker]

ye have little faith :)

On the contrary. I have A LOT of faith, in my GOD and those I love. I have no faith in folks who have a political agenda and pretend to know what's best for ME, not having ever met me.

There is no such thing as an "Assault Weapon." If GUNS KILL PEOPLE, then all of mine are defective.

There are people who use weapons for Assault. The majority of the GUN'S IN AMERICA have NEVER been used for assault.

[Freethinker]

At Least You Can Get .223, 7.62x39 Is Almost Impossible To Get

No offense, MYCAR, but you can keep that COMMIE CRAP. AR shooters at my local range don't bother cleaning up after they're done shooting, because all that CRAP WOLF STEEL CASED COMMIE CRAP can't be re-loaded, so they don't bother.

At the heart of the shooting sports is CONSERVATION. That includes cleaning up when you're done. Weather you were shooting at PAPER TARGETS, or CANS, or WHATEVER, you should leave no trace that you were there. That's what I teach my kid, and the way I was taught to shoot. That's the way it should be, but it isn't that way anymore.

[right$pecial]

No offense, MYCAR, but you can keep that COMMIE CRAP. AR shooters at my local range don't bother cleaning up after they're done shooting, because all that CRAP WOLF STEEL CASED COMMIE CRAP can't be re-loaded, so they don't bother.

At the heart of the shooting sports is CONSERVATION. That includes cleaning up when you're done. Weather you were shooting at PAPER TARGETS, or CANS, or WHATEVER, you should leave no trace that you were there. That's what I teach my kid, and the way I was taught to shoot. That's the way it should be, but it isn't that way anymore.

I believe this sort of thinking needs to be in place for both shooting at targets as well as camping etc; that's the way I was taught. I do love my sks though and it's shoddy commie rounds. I need to figure out what to do with all the empties.

[Freethinker]

I believe this sort of thinking needs to be in place for both shooting at targets as well as camping etc; that's the way I was taught. I do love my sks though and it's shoddy commie rounds. I need to figure out what to do with all the empties.

Scrap them. The recycle centers will actually buy them back. ;)

As for the rest of your reply, it's obvious you're an exeption to the "observed rule" of the AK shooters that I've met at the range. :D

[MYCAR47562]

No offense, MYCAR, but you can keep that COMMIE CRAP. AR shooters at my local range don't bother cleaning up after they're done shooting, because all that CRAP WOLF STEEL CASED COMMIE CRAP can't be re-loaded, so they don't bother.

At the heart of the shooting sports is CONSERVATION. That includes cleaning up when you're done. Weather you were shooting at PAPER TARGETS, or CANS, or WHATEVER, you should leave no trace that you were there. That's what I teach my kid, and the way I was taught to shoot. That's the way it should be, but it isn't that way anymore.

:eek: SO BECAUSE I SHOOT A 7.62X39 IM A BAD PERSON?

[right$pecial]

:eek: SO BECAUSE I SHOOT A 7.62X39 IM A BAD PERSON?

Yep. Just kidding. I actually have an SKS and an AR, but the damn drought has prevented me from getting the AR fully capable. It also helps that I had about 500 rounds of 7.62 before this mess started.

[MYCAR47562]

I Should Have But I Was To Tight On Money Before This

[right$pecial]

I Should Have But I Was To Tight On Money Before This

Hey man I'm with ya. If I'd seen this coming I'd have a few less motorcycle parts and a few more rounds, a fully functional AR, and a reloading station.

[MYCAR47562]

Hey man I'm with ya. If I'd seen this coming I'd have a few less motorcycle parts and a few more rounds, a fully functional AR, and a reloading station.

I WISH I WOULD HAVE BEEN SURE THIS WAS COMING AS I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT EVERY AR MY CREDIT CARD WOULD HAVE HELD FOR RESALE TO PAY OFF THE SECOND CARD I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO BUY AMMO AND RELOADING EQUIPMENT.


I JUST WISH I COULD GET SOME .45 IM DOWN TO 106 LEFT AND IM GETTING SCARED I WON'T HAVE ANY AMMO LEFT SOON

[right$pecial]

Yeah, I won't even dip into the rounds I have anymore. If I want to shoot something I go pick up the rounds and leave the small stockpile alone.

[MYCAR47562]

Yea I Have Gone From Shooting Alot To Shooting Just Enough To Feel Confident With Them, I Have Been Thinking Of Getting A 22-250 As I See Ammo For It Everywhere

[right$pecial]

Yea I Have Gone From Shooting Alot To Shooting Just Enough To Feel Confident With Them, I Have Been Thinking Of Getting A 22-250 As I See Ammo For It Everywhere

I've bought two .22 rifles and a .22pistol to get my practice in and it is a great thing to be able to burn through 500 rounds a week for only 20-30bucks.

[MYCAR47562]

yea i have a .22 rifle i just get tired of loading round's in the one mag i really wanna get a gsg-5 that will probally be my next .22 purchase

[The G]

I have an old Savage pump 22 and you can shoot the ass of a gnat with it.

[MYCAR47562]

I have an old Savage pump 22 and you can shoot the ass of a gnat with it.

MY MOST ACCURATE IS A MOSSBERG 702 PLINKSTER IF I PUT A BETTER SCOPE ON I COULD DO THE SAME.... BUT I CAN'T AFFORD IT TO MANY TAXES

[The G]

I like my grandfathers old pump 22.

[MYCAR47562]

I Actually Have My Grandfather's Grandfather's .22 It's From Like 1911ish That Is A Heavy Gun For A .22

[The G]

I'm not sure what year it is but hes got the rifle when he was a boy.

[right$pecial]

I scoped the 10/22 yesterday going to be fun when I make it back to the range. I'm also heavily considering a bolt action .22 as the Enfield is getting expensive. I do envy you guys for having the older ones though. The Enfield is obviously very old and I also inherited my grandfather's old semi auto Remington 12gauge, but most of what I own is circa 2008-2009.

[The G]

I have another one I will give to my some one day. It a 22 20 over and under single shot, I think thats what its call. It would make a good squirrel gun.

[MYCAR47562]

I Have Alot Of Older Guns Cause They Are Cheaper That's The Only Kool Handme Down Gun I Got Coming To Me But The Amount Is Kinda Kool

Id Love To Have A .223 12guage Over/under

[The G]

Id Love To Have A .223 12guage Over/underThats one I haven't heard of.

[Freethinker]

Hey man I'm with ya. If I'd seen this coming I'd have a few less motorcycle parts and a few more rounds, a fully functional AR, and a reloading station.

Good luck finding primers. May as well buy a few pounds of powder for whatever you plan on loading, it will be on the scarce list soon too. Bullets aren't too hard to find, but primers are just nowhere to be found. Even the online whore houses can't stock them.

[right$pecial]

Good luck finding primers. May as well buy a few pounds of powder for whatever you plan on loading, it will be on the scarce list soon too. Bullets aren't too hard to find, but primers are just nowhere to be found. Even the online whore houses can't stock them.

Yeah I gathered that from the other forum. My uncle has been reloading all his life and he is so hard up that he is reloading corrosive 30.06.

[The G]

Good luck finding primers. May as well buy a few pounds of powder for whatever you plan on loading, it will be on the scarce list soon too. Bullets aren't too hard to find, but primers are just nowhere to be found. Even the online whore houses can't stock them.

If you guys would stop but up all this crap there wouldn't be a shortage.

[MYCAR47562]

i can't find primer's either

[The G]

BO was on the tube tonight saying he won't mess with the gun ban. I think you guys will have to find something else to bitch about :p

[MYCAR47562]

i hope your right

[Remphoto]

BO was on the tube tonight saying he won't mess with the gun ban. I think you guys will have to find something else to bitch about :p

I would like to believe him, but his own people keep bringing it up. Its being alluded to again regarding talks with Mexico. At his core he is an anti-gunner -- just look at his past positions in this regard.

[The G]

He was pretty clear on the tube last night, I'm sure he'll get his troops in line on this one.

[MYCAR47562]

That Will Tell Us Something

[Remphoto]

He was pretty clear on the tube last night, I'm sure he'll get his troops in line on this one.

He seems to have trouble doing that;you libs are a quarrelsome bunch.:)

And BTW my Licensed Firearms Dealer buddy scored me five more boxes of the ultra-scarce .380. I am a happy man.:D

[MYCAR47562]

Congrat's Rem Im Still Trying To Find .45 I Go To Walmart Every Other Day Trying To Find It And Still No Luck

[synseer]

Apparently there is at least one state right now making its own attempt to keep guns within the state regardless of any federal law that gets put in place.

"In Montana, Governor Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat, recently signed HB 246, a bill that affirms the Tenth, Ninth, and Second Amendments, as well as its own state constitutional protections of the right to keep and bear arms. It also cites the general understanding of the Second Amendment at the time Montana entered the Union: “The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.”

The bill itself exempts any “personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and that remains within the borders of Montana” from any “federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of Congress to regulate interstate commerce.”"

http://www.netrightnation.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=710675:the-states-strike-back&catid=1:nrn-blog&Itemid=7

Since it came from an obviously rightwing website we can expect that G guy to post up some pathetic attack on the article itself and/or anyone that reads it and somehow tie to GWB. Most likely followed up with a mis-used "deet dee dee".

[The G]

Apparently there is at least one state right now making its own attempt to keep guns within the state regardless of any federal law that gets put in place.

"In Montana, Governor Brian Schweitzer, a Democrat, recently signed HB 246, a bill that affirms the Tenth, Ninth, and Second Amendments, as well as its own state constitutional protections of the right to keep and bear arms. It also cites the general understanding of the Second Amendment at the time Montana entered the Union: “The second amendment to the United States constitution reserves to the people the right to keep and bear arms as that right was understood at the time that Montana was admitted to statehood in 1889, and the guaranty of the right is a matter of contract between the state and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana and the United States in 1889.”

The bill itself exempts any “personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in Montana and that remains within the borders of Montana” from any “federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of Congress to regulate interstate commerce.”"

http://www.netrightnation.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=710675:the-states-strike-back&catid=1:nrn-blog&Itemid=7

Since it came from an obviously rightwing website we can expect that G guy to post up some pathetic attack on the article itself and/or anyone that reads it and somehow tie to GWB. Most likely followed up with a mis-used "deet dee dee".if the governor is trying to take our right to bear arms then hes wrong. GWB never tried to take our gun but he qualiftes for a Deet dee dee.

If I knew that Deet dee dee would have hit home so hard I wouldn't have posted it. :) I'll buy breakfast next time and maybe you'll forgive me.

[synseer]

if the governor is trying to take our right to bear arms then hes wrong. GWB never tried to take our gun but he qualiftes for a Deet dee dee.

If I knew that Deet dee dee would have hit home so hard I wouldn't have posted it. :) I'll buy breakfast next time and maybe you'll forgive me.

You give yourself way too much credit...didn't hit anywhere near home. If you'd really thought about it you'd have figured that out; but you can still buy breakfast....it's my favorite meal of the day. :)

[The G]

I went back and read what I wrote, I really don't thing I was being a shit. I've been tougher on these guys and never got a response like that. Don't get me wrong I've had to eat some crow here for some of my posts.

[synseer]

I went back and read what I wrote, I really don't thing I was being a shit. I've been tougher on these guys and never got a response like that. Don't get me wrong I've had to eat some crow here for some of my posts.

I don't believe you were being a shit either...not even about that in my book; you're hard on others, brutally honest to a degree from what I can tell and that's all fine, well, and good. I was talking smack at you some and since you're a hard dude I expect that you have thick skin and can take a beating here and there. If I am incorrect in this perception then please, by all means let me know. I'm not upset, angry, or otherwise mad at you and as such there is nothing for me to forgive.

[MYCAR47562]

g your such a dick lol

[Jeb]

If anyone is deluded enough to think guns are not next...I'll buy! They will go first for the ammo and then the assault weapons and then just as Eric Holder did in the Clinton Whore House...he will keep gun purchase records! Have you forgotten the 80 Davidens that were cooked with flame throwing tanks or Ruby Ridge Baby in the arms sniper shooting! Least you forget the boomrang always comes back around! Liberals only have one playbook! Game is on!:eek: Jeb

[MYCAR47562]

If anyone is deluded enough to think guns are not next...I'll buy! They will go first for the ammo and then the assault weapons and then just as Eric Holder did in the Clinton Whore House...he will keep gun purchase records! Have you forgotten the 80 Davidens that were cooked with flame throwing tanks or Ruby Ridge Baby in the arms sniper shooting! Least you forget the boomrang always comes back around! Liberals only have one playbook! Game is on!:eek: Jeb

NO I DON'T REMBER THAT

[The G]

You weren't born yet :)

[MYCAR47562]

You weren't born yet :)

HUM OH

[Jeb]

Type in Waco or Ruby Ridge and see what comes up! Jeb

[MYCAR47562]

Ok I Know Those Names And Ruby Ridge Didn't Sound Good From What I Saw The Other Day

[The G]

You search is out there.

[MYCAR47562]

yea im sure it is

[synseer]

Montana is kicking it a notch! Might have to reconsider where I build my retirement home.

"The state of Montana has drawn a line in the sand, challenging the federal government to decide whether to follow the U.S. Constitution with a new gun law that exempts from federal regulations any gun, gun accessory or ammunition made in the state and intended for use there.

"What this boils down to is:


"Guns and ammo made, sold and used in Montana do not require any federal forms.


"Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not registered.


"There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required.
"Moving to Montana soon," wrote a blogger called Primevalpapa.

In an era in which the administration of President Barack Obama is replete with anti-gun activists in influential positions, including an attorney general who supported a complete handgun ban in the District of Columbia before it was tossed by the U.S. Supreme Court, Montana's move is being called nothing less that revolutionary."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97265

[right$pecial]

I've been following this for a while any yes I agree with Montana. Hopefully this will reset the already established, but long forgotten, precedent where states can act as checks against the federal governments powers.

[Jeb]

I agree and I think the battle lines need to be drawn on issues like this that everyone can grasp! Jeb:gun:

[cajun]

I agree, but were screwed with Charley Crist, we have become almost a liberal state, Charley on stage with BO in Ft,myers with his hand out for stimulus money. They just passed the seat belt law so we can get an aditional 30 million from big brother.

[Jeb]

THe thanks he got this week from his liberal friends was being outed as the Gay Governor!:rofl That is how liberals roll! They use you and then toss you! Google the worthless chump and you can read all about it! Jeb

[MYCAR47562]

oh montana hear i come

[synseer]

I agree, but were screwed with Charley Crist, we have become almost a liberal state, Charley on stage with BO in Ft,myers with his hand out for stimulus money. They just passed the seat belt law so we can get an aditional 30 million from big brother.

If that's the case then this probably isn't good news.

"Florida Gov. Charlie Crist announced Tuesday that he will run for U.S. Senate, in a bid to keep a vital Republican seat from switching hands next year. The popular Republican governor could also be setting himself up for a presidential run in 2012."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/12/florida-gov-crist-announces-senate-run/

[MYCAR47562]

crist doesn't sound very conservative

[synseer]

He's got his hands full in house as well...

"In a last minute sneak attack on gun owners, the Florida Legislature raided the concealed weapons and firearms licensing trust fund. This not only effects resident CCW license holders, but non-resident Florida license holders as well!"

"Obviously fearing the Governor would use his line-item veto to stop trust fund raids, proviso language was inserted in the bill in a clear attempt to intimidate the Governor."


http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=4854

[Jeb]

He want miss a chance to kiss gun owner arses now that he is running for the senate. Jeb

[MYCAR47562]

Good Let Him, But Make Sure He Know's You Will Be Watching