Faux News fair and balanced ?

[The G]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqPxn7njqM&feature=channel

[nelson]

If you think that's media bias, you need to open your eyes, my friend!

Walk in the shoes of a conservative, if you can, and your eyes will be opened to a whole new world of press manipulation.

[The G]

Maybe thats why they don't have "truth" between the fair and balanced. :D

Oh theres a lot more from where that one came from.

[gtrman66]

They were showing a clip from Colbert... geez, how would anyone take that as "news" to begin with? It was a fluff piece. I think it's funny that Colbert got him to say it regardless of the edits.

[Remphoto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqPxn7njqM&feature=channel

For a guy who dislikes Fox News so much you sure seem to spend a lot of time watching it. :rofl

[The G]

For a guy who dislikes Fox News so much you sure seem to spend a lot of time watching it. :rofl

Just digging up the fair and balanced Faux News. :rofl

[Remphoto]

Just digging up the fair and balanced Faux News. :rofl

Hey, save yourself the time and trouble. Just go to "Media Matters" website. That bunch of Soros-sponsored "monitors" will left-wing-spin Fox news stories just too your liking. TT has even used MM as a reference source, so you know where it is coming from. :D

[MYCAR47562]

it looks like a comedy report to me

[nelson]

G, libs have long set the standard for subtle, evil, dangerous news bias. To be honest, it makes any silly stuff you guys find at Fox look like childsplay. Here is just one example. The "Muslim civil rights group" they're talking about is CAIR, a known front for terrorism and identified as such by the FBI (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/30/fbi-cut-ties-cair-following-terror-financing-trial/).



FBI limits work with Muslim civil rights group amid dispute
Some vow to stop cooperating with agency amid dispute

Monday, April 27, 2009
Gregg Krupa / The Detroit News
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090427/METRO/904270346/1409/METRO/FBI%20limits%20work%20with%20Muslim%20civil%20righ ts%20group%20amid%20dispute

The FBI has suspended much of its work with the nation's largest civil rights organization for Muslims after cooperating for years on the training of agents and outreach to Muslims.

A host of Muslim and Arab organizations have threatened to stop cooperating with the FBI until the dispute over the Council on American Islamic Relations is resolved.

The issue, which is playing out amid large Muslim and Arab populations in Metro Detroit and nationally, is eroding relations between Muslims and law enforcement, Muslim leaders say. FBI officials also express concern about the impact on those relationships, which both consider integral to protecting national security and civil rights.

"The FBI has had to limit its formal contact with CAIR field offices until certain issues are addressed by CAIR's national headquarters," said Assistant FBI Director John Miller, concerning action that was taken, but not announced, last autumn. "CAIR's leadership is aware of this. Beyond that, we have no further comment."

Officials of CAIR, which has 35 field offices in 19 states, say they have not been informed of the concerns. But at a trial in Dallas last year of a major Muslim charity, the prosecution presented evidence that two CAIR officials participated in a 1993 meeting about how to represent Hamas in the United States.

Establishing CAIR may have resulted from that effort, an FBI agent suggested in her testimony. And CAIR was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the case, a designation it has contested in court.

While FBI officials would not say publicly why it has ended most cooperation with CAIR, privately they say the FBI would be hard-pressed to explain why it would continue to engage as a partner an organization with two leaders who attended such a meeting.

CAIR officials deny the organization is a front for Hamas, or that it was organized as a result of the conversation the FBI recorded in Philadelphia. Meanwhile, President Bill Clinton did not designate Hamas as a terrorist organization until 1995.

"Our work has been overwhelmingly based upon issues directly affecting Muslims, from giving diversity trainings, empowering Muslims through civic engagement trainings and in taking discrimination cases," said Dawud Walid, the executive director of CAIR-Michigan. "Probably not even 1 percent of CAIR's work in the past 15 years has been related to the grievances of Palestinians. This does not reflect the work of an alleged front group for people in the Gaza Strip."

Officials of CAIR and defense lawyers in the Muslim charity case say no evidence was presented that CAIR intended to work on behalf of Hamas or that it was established as a result of the recorded conversation.

While the U.S. and other governments consider Hamas a terrorist group, many Muslims and Arabs consider it a resistance group, and say Palestinians have a right to resist Israel.

The prosecution sought to establish that 18 Hamas sympathizers attended the meeting. One is identified only as "Nihad." The FBI said it identified the man as Nihad Awad, the current executive director of CAIR, by the sound of his voice.

Awad did not return calls seeking comment. In a sworn deposition in a separate case, Awad said he did not recall attending the meeting.

Omar Ahmad, a founder and board member of CAIR, also is identified as a participant. Ahmad did not respond to requests for an interview.

However, the link between the meeting and the founding of CAIR remains unclear. The stated purpose of the participants in the recorded conversation was to establish a low-profile group, not readily identified with Muslims, which would work quietly to promote the concerns of Hamas in 1993.

"How can we possibly be the group described when from the very start the word 'Islamic' in the name Council on American Islamic Relations has identified us as a Muslim group and when we are the largest Muslim civil rights organization in the United States?" said Corey Saylor, the legislative director of CAIR.

Meanwhile, the FBI said it will continue to review civil rights complaints filed by CAIR.

[The G]

What has that got to do with Faux news ?

[The G]

This is another good one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id5mEKfyxmE

[MYCAR47562]

http://www.eatbees.com/blog/images/raghead.jpg

yeah i know that's wrong

[nelson]

What has that got to do with Faux news ?It demonstrates what press bias really is, for your information.

FBI limits work with Muslim civil rights group amid dispute
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090427/METRO/904270346/1409/METRO/FBI%20limits%20work%20with%20Muslim%20civil%20righ ts%20group%20amid%20dispute
There you go, in case you missed it. Dangerous, destructive, anti-American press bias from your liberal media.

[The G]

I guess I'm slow because in don't see how its relevant.

But I have noticed you post a lot about muslins.

[The G]

Heres another good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJKIoO3cXpM&feature=related

[synseer]

I guess I'm slow because in don't see how its relevant.

But I have noticed you post a lot about muslins.

No different than how you post a lot about Fox News. Don't be a hypocrite.

[The G]

No different than how you post a lot about Fox News. Don't be a hypocrite.

How is that being a hipocrite ?

[The G]

I post with the videos about the way Faux news reports the story"their way". His was about the Reb hold up the nominations and BO health care changes.

Theres is a difference

but getting off topic is a good way of not addressing the thread. :rofl

[synseer]

Again you miss the point...you do that a lot; you talked smack about him posting a lot about muslims while you post a lot about Fox news. Pot calling the kettle black. That's hypocritical. Plain and simple. Nice try poking fun at me to divert attention off your hypocritical self though.

[The G]

I think you are missing the point, read the title of the thread.

[The G]

The post about Muslim was just an observation nothing else.

[synseer]

I think you are missing the point, read the title of the thread.

You think incorrectly; none of my posts ever addressed the thread topic specifically. Never claimed they did. You hypocrisy caught my attention and that is what I replied to.

[The G]

see post #21

[The G]

To get back on topic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZJeeJ1PMNE

[The G]

This came from post 9 and where the muslin issue came up. As you can see I didn't bring up the issue.

G, libs have long set the standard for subtle, evil, dangerous news bias. To be honest, it makes any silly stuff you guys find at Fox look like childsplay. Here is just one example. The "Muslim civil rights group" they're talking about is CAIR, a known front for terrorism and identified as such by the FBI.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit News

FBI limits work with Muslim civil rights group amid dispute
Some vow to stop cooperating with agency amid dispute

Monday, April 27, 2009
Gregg Krupa / The Detroit News
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...amid%20dispute

The FBI has suspended much of its work with the nation's largest civil rights organization for Muslims after cooperating for years on the training of agents and outreach to Muslims.

A host of Muslim and Arab organizations have threatened to stop cooperating with the FBI until the dispute over the Council on American Islamic Relations is resolved.

The issue, which is playing out amid large Muslim and Arab populations in Metro Detroit and nationally, is eroding relations between Muslims and law enforcement, Muslim leaders say. FBI officials also express concern about the impact on those relationships, which both consider integral to protecting national security and civil rights.

"The FBI has had to limit its formal contact with CAIR field offices until certain issues are addressed by CAIR's national headquarters," said Assistant FBI Director John Miller, concerning action that was taken, but not announced, last autumn. "CAIR's leadership is aware of this. Beyond that, we have no further comment."

Officials of CAIR, which has 35 field offices in 19 states, say they have not been informed of the concerns. But at a trial in Dallas last year of a major Muslim charity, the prosecution presented evidence that two CAIR officials participated in a 1993 meeting about how to represent Hamas in the United States.

Establishing CAIR may have resulted from that effort, an FBI agent suggested in her testimony. And CAIR was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the case, a designation it has contested in court.

While FBI officials would not say publicly why it has ended most cooperation with CAIR, privately they say the FBI would be hard-pressed to explain why it would continue to engage as a partner an organization with two leaders who attended such a meeting.

CAIR officials deny the organization is a front for Hamas, or that it was organized as a result of the conversation the FBI recorded in Philadelphia. Meanwhile, President Bill Clinton did not designate Hamas as a terrorist organization until 1995.

"Our work has been overwhelmingly based upon issues directly affecting Muslims, from giving diversity trainings, empowering Muslims through civic engagement trainings and in taking discrimination cases," said Dawud Walid, the executive director of CAIR-Michigan. "Probably not even 1 percent of CAIR's work in the past 15 years has been related to the grievances of Palestinians. This does not reflect the work of an alleged front group for people in the Gaza Strip."

Officials of CAIR and defense lawyers in the Muslim charity case say no evidence was presented that CAIR intended to work on behalf of Hamas or that it was established as a result of the recorded conversation.

While the U.S. and other governments consider Hamas a terrorist group, many Muslims and Arabs consider it a resistance group, and say Palestinians have a right to resist Israel.

The prosecution sought to establish that 18 Hamas sympathizers attended the meeting. One is identified only as "Nihad." The FBI said it identified the man as Nihad Awad, the current executive director of CAIR, by the sound of his voice.

Awad did not return calls seeking comment. In a sworn deposition in a separate case, Awad said he did not recall attending the meeting.

Omar Ahmad, a founder and board member of CAIR, also is identified as a participant. Ahmad did not respond to requests for an interview.

However, the link between the meeting and the founding of CAIR remains unclear. The stated purpose of the participants in the recorded conversation was to establish a low-profile group, not readily identified with Muslims, which would work quietly to promote the concerns of Hamas in 1993.

"How can we possibly be the group described when from the very start the word 'Islamic' in the name Council on American Islamic Relations has identified us as a Muslim group and when we are the largest Muslim civil rights organization in the United States?" said Corey Saylor, the legislative director of CAIR.

Meanwhile, the FBI said it will continue to review civil rights complaints filed by CAIR.

[nelson]

The issue is press bias. Your claim is that Fox is not fair and balanced. I cite one example of serious press bias, for your review. The liberal press in my example is actually in bed with terrorist enemies of the USA. Talk about shocking! That's the kind of bias we're accustomed to, G. Kind of takes the bite off silly accusations thrown at Fox.

I like to read your opinions - and by now I think we all know how you feel about Fox. Just presenting the other side.

[The G]

The issue is press bias. Your claim is that Fox is not fair and balanced. I cite one example of serious press bias, for your review. The liberal press in my example is actually in bed with terrorist enemies of the USA. Talk about shocking! That's the kind of bias we're accustomed to, G. Kind of takes the bite off silly accusations thrown at Fox.

I like to read your opinions - and by now I think we all know how you feel about Fox. Just presenting the other side.
I don't see how we are in bed with terrorist, but what do I know I'm just a hypocrite.

[MYCAR47562]

http://www.mygtv.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/osama_obama.jpg I KNEW IT

[The G]

http://www.mygtv.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/osama_obama.jpg I KNEW IT

You know what I'm referring too.

[MYCAR47562]

You know what I'm referring too.

OH SORRY http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/assets_c/2009/04/ra324586193.jpg-thumb-410x307.jpeg

[The G]

OH SORRY http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/assets_c/2009/04/ra324586193.jpg-thumb-410x307.jpegDosen't mean he likes the guy.

[MYCAR47562]

Dosen't mean he likes the guy.

YEA I SMILE SHAKE HANDS AND PAT EVERYBODY ON THE BACK

[gtrman66]

Dosen't mean he likes the guy.

Infatuation is so much more than "like"

[Remphoto]

To get back on topic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZJeeJ1PMNE

What are your continuous youtube postings regarding Fox News supposed to prove? I could post just as many making fun of MSNBC, Olbermann and other Lib icons. I choose to be the bigger man (which I literally am) and not do that.:D

[The G]

I never watch Faux news till I came here, all I heard is how unbiased they where in their reporting. So I started watching and searching to see what up with this news station. The more I dug the more I found that they where not fair and balanced. When you see how they manipulate the news and tell untruths, I can't believe anyone would say they report news in a fair and balanced because that is not true.

I don't watch msmbc post away.:p

[MYCAR47562]

maybe you should stop

[right$pecial]

I never watch Faux news till I came here, all I heard is how unbiased they where in their reporting. So I started watching and searching to see what up with this news station. The more I dug the more I found that they where not fair and balanced. When you see how they manipulate the news and tell untruths, I can't believe anyone would say they report news in a fair and balanced because that is not true.

I don't watch msmbc post away.:p

I didn't watch Fox before I joined here either. I pretty much stuck to the net, word of mouth, or the paper. Since then I've watched a lot of Fox news and found that their findings largely match some of my own conclusions. They are not "fair and balanced" however, in truth even Fox is far too liberal for my tastes.

[Oriondk]

G, do you really think any of the news channels are fair and balanced? I wouldn't count on any of them to form my opinions.

[MYCAR47562]

G, do you really think any of the news channels are fair and balanced? I wouldn't count on any of them to form my opinions.

THAT'S THE LIBERAL WAY, I MEAN HOW ELSE DO YOU ELECT SOMEONE WITH NO EXPERIENCE THEN TRY AND JUSTIFY IT BY SAYING HE HAS ALMOST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER GUY'S VICE PRESIDENT

[The G]

THAT'S THE LIBERAL WAY, I MEAN HOW ELSE DO YOU ELECT SOMEONE WITH NO EXPERIENCE THEN TRY AND JUSTIFY IT BY SAYING HE HAS ALMOST AS MUCH AS THE OTHER GUY'S VICE PRESIDENT

Do what ?

[MYCAR47562]

THAT'S THE LIBERAL WAY, I MEAN HOW ELSE DO YOU ELECT SOMEONE(obama) WITH NO EXPERIENCE. THEN TRY AND JUSTIFY IT BY SAYING HE (obama) HAS ALMOST AS MUCH experience AS THE OTHER GUY'S VICE PRESIDENT(palin)

[The G]

Hes doing a great job and well liked, with a few exception here. :)

[MYCAR47562]

Hes doing a great job and well liked, with a few exception here. :)

it's quite a bit more than a few

[The G]

I saw that crowd you guys had, the illegals had more in Chicago than you guys had in the whole country. :rofl

[MYCAR47562]

his approval rating is only 58 percent where's the other 42% and why is it ive never been called? g do they have you on speed dial?

[The G]

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

[MYCAR47562]

so just a third of america disaproves of him let's sit a watch another third turn on him when they don't start getting everything free

[Remphoto]

Anyone stomach BO's appearance tonight? I refuse to call it a news conference given how the reporters are pre-selected and the answers are drawn out to become mini-speeches. Anyway, Dennis Miller had some good comments on O'Reilly concerning BO's put down of the tea-party participants. Dennis said (to paraphrase) that BO goes out of his way to cater to and not offend every third world wacko and petty dictator, yet disses the real, mainstream Americans who support the Tea Party movement. He said that BO has gone through his life never being challenged or questioned and lashes out against those who dare questions him. He finds himself comfortable around the "swells" and elites. Well-said Dennis.

[right$pecial]

Anyone stomach BO's appearance tonight? I refuse to call it a news conference given how the reporters are pre-selected and the answers are drawn out to become mini-speeches. Anyway, Dennis Miller had some good comments on O'Reilly concerning BO's put down of the tea-party participants. Dennis said (to paraphrase) that BO goes out of his way to cater to and not offend every third world wacko and petty dictator, yet disses the real, mainstream Americans who support the Tea Party movement. He said that BO has gone through his life never being challenged or questioned and lashes out against those who dare questions him. He finds himself comfortable around the "swells" and elites. Well-said Dennis.

No, to be completely honest I've grown weary of listening to his pompous excuses. It doesn't help that I'm now considered a right wing, bible thumping, extremist by those in his administration and a complete non-issue to the man himself. I've never really gotten involved with politics before but when 2012 rolls around I will certainly go door to door for whichever candidate runs against him.

[nelson]

I caught some of the press conference while I was at the gym on the treadmill. Seems like these things are more of a show than anything else. I've never seen press conferences like these. For one, Obama insists on prime time, plus the reporters ask real fluffy questions, and everything else is scripted - all while this man is the leader of the free world, making huge, long-lasting decisions that will impact us for a very long time, if not forever. These are not press conferences - the press isn't holding Obama accountable for anything. These are media events, and Obama is simply portraying a persona. WTB a press that is skeptical, not completely fawning over the man!

[Remphoto]

I caught some of the press conference while I was at the gym on the treadmill. Seems like these things are more of a show than anything else. I've never seen press conferences like these. For one, Obama insists on prime time, plus the reporters ask real fluffy questions, and everything else is scripted - all while this man is the leader of the free world, making huge, long-lasting decisions that will impact us for a very long time, if not forever. These are not press conferences - the press isn't holding Obama accountable for anything. These are media events, and Obama is simply portraying a persona. WTB a press that is skeptical, not completely fawning over the man!

Exactly. One reporter even asked him about what "enchanted" him during the first 100 days. Enchanted? What kind of "fair and balanced" question is that?

[The G]

I caught some of the press conference while I was at the gym on the treadmill. Seems like these things are more of a show than anything else. I've never seen press conferences like these. For one, Obama insists on prime time, plus the reporters ask real fluffy questions, and everything else is scripted - all while this man is the leader of the free world, making huge, long-lasting decisions that will impact us for a very long time, if not forever. These are not press conferences - the press isn't holding Obama accountable for anything. These are media events, and Obama is simply portraying a persona. WTB a press that is skeptical, not completely fawning over the man!
Faux news said about the same thing, surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

[The G]

Exactly. One reporter even asked him about what "enchanted" him during the first 100 days. Enchanted? What kind of "fair and balanced" question is that?

I believe this one came from Oreally :)

[Remphoto]

:DI believe this one came from Oreally :)

Do a google search -- lots of people are thinking the same thing about the quality of questions being asked to BO. "Enchanted"? Please....:D

[The G]

:D

Do a google search -- lots of people are thinking the same thing about the quality of questions being asked to BO. "Enchanted"? Please....:D

Its the reporters fault not BO. I see Faux is talking about this all day :rofl

[The G]

Must be you have to load the search cause this is what I came up with.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Enchanted&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[The G]

Fair and balanced :rofl

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/fox_says_no_to_obama_100_day_stunt/

[Remphoto]

Add "Obama" to "Enchanted" in your search. Or better yet, run "Obama Media bias." I agree that it is not directly BO's fault that the media slobber all over him. But his leftwing philosophy matches that tof the mainstream press and they prop him up as a result. He would not be president if this were not so. He would still be back "community organizing" at ACORN in his corrupt hometown of Chicago. And G, you really need something better than your leftwing websites to convince anyone of your position. Good luck.:)

[MYCAR47562]

I Think The Website's Prove His Position

[The G]

Add "Obama" to "Enchanted" in your search. Or better yet, run "Obama Media bias." I agree that it is not directly BO's fault that the media slobber all over him. But his leftwing philosophy matches that tof the mainstream press and they prop him up as a result. He would not be president if this were not so. He would still be back "community organizing" at ACORN in his corrupt hometown of Chicago. And G, you really need something better than your leftwing websites to convince anyone of your position. Good luck.:)After 8 years with Bush it was time for a change, we all knew it and pushed hard got the vote out. You can blame it on the media if it makes you feel better but thats just not the case.:D

[The G]

I Think The Website's Prove His Position
Do a search on the topic and see where the story started. I wonder if its Faux news ? :rofl

[Remphoto]

After 8 years with Bush it was time for a change, we all knew it and pushed hard got the vote out. You can blame it on the media if it makes you feel better but thats just not the case.:D

The way the media demonized bush and the republicans was appalling. BO deserves whatever little he gets from the few fair and balanced news outlets out there. He is afraid of the truth, which is why he and his lackey's target Fox, Rush, etc. He couldn't even resist a dig at Fox in his speech last night. He is as obsessed as you about them, G.

[Remphoto]

Anyone stomach BO's appearance tonight? I refuse to call it a news conference given how the reporters are pre-selected and the answers are drawn out to become mini-speeches. Anyway, Dennis Miller had some good comments on O'Reilly concerning BO's put down of the tea-party participants. Dennis said (to paraphrase) that BO goes out of his way to cater to and not offend every third world wacko and petty dictator, yet disses the real, mainstream Americans who support the Tea Party movement. He said that BO has gone through his life never being challenged or questioned and lashes out against those who dare questions him. He finds himself comfortable around the "swells" and elites. Well-said Dennis.

I'm not one to normally post youtube links but here is Dennis Miller's comments regarding Obama's speeches last night. The meat of it starts at about 1:00 minute, but the entire clip is pretty darn good -- great send up of Specter later on in the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hxOR-gtnns

[The G]

The way the media demonized bush and the republicans was appalling. BO deserves whatever little he gets from the few fair and balanced news outlets out there. He is afraid of the truth, which is why he and his lackey's target Fox, Rush, etc. He couldn't even resist a dig at Fox in his speech last night. He is as obsessed as you about them, G.
Bush is a DS and everyone knows it, every time he opened his mouth it just confirmed it.

BO knows bias when he see it.

[The G]

I'm not one to normally post youtube links but here is Dennis Miller's comments regarding Obama's speeches last night. The meat of it starts at about 1:00 minute, but the entire clip is pretty darn good -- great send up of Specter later on in the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hxOR-gtnns
You know I put a lot of stock in Faux news :rofl

[nelson]

here is Dennis Miller's comments regarding Obama's speeches last night. The meat of it starts at about 1:00 minute, but the entire clip is pretty darn good -- great send up of Specter later on in the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hxOR-gtnnsWow I love his commentary! Haha! Dennis Miller is the best!!!

And I think O'Reilly is spot-on with is critique. Obama clearly has never been criticized, and now that he's catching criticism, he doesn't know how to take it, except to insult the people who are criticizing him. That's arrogance!

[The G]

no thats telling the truth :)

[Jeb]

No that is a pompus arse who can't take a hit without crying foul! Jeb

[The G]

I Think The Website's Prove His Position

I don't think so.

[MYCAR47562]

No that is a pompus arse who can't take a hit without crying foul! Jeb

:eek::rofl

[The G]

The link is dead.