Ethanol Fuels

[TaxmanHog]

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Originally Posted by TaxmanHog

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You mean the part about requiring all vehicles to be flexfuel vehicles? Wonder what that will do to vehicle performance. Also, it is interesting how much fuel mileage is lost with high ethanol content fuels. The reduced cost of the high-ethanol fuel never seems to compensate.

[Jeb]

Ethanol is not a winner in any cateogory! It takes a great many bushels of corn to make a gallon of the crap, which causes serious shortages of one of the 2 most important food sources for the entire world (Corn and Wheat). Forget the starving masses in Sub-Sahara Africa, we have a planet to save!! It attracts moisture, gums rapidly, breaks down fast, losing octane (goes stale) and produces far less energy as traditional fuels, which means piss poor performance, reduced throttle response, poor combustion and low fuel economy!! For God's sake...do not leave it in your generator or motorcycle for over 3 months without an additive. Remember, anything the government subsudizes increases. Anything it taxes shrinks!! Otherwords there is, in the end, no reduced cost in anything the feds have to force on us!

[TaxmanHog]

Research their site a bit more, they are using field corn cob's not the grain, win/win solution to much farming waste, also using other secondary cellulose by product as their feed stock's.

I agree the energy content is not the same but it's a source to be considered & helping break our energy dependence on other nations

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Originally Posted by TaxmanHog

Research their site a bit more, they are using field corn cob's not the grain, win/win solution to much farming waste, also using other secondary cellulose by product as their feed stock's.

I agree the energy content is not the same but it's a source to be considered & helping break our energy dependence on other nations

It makes sense to capture what is just blowing out of the combines as waste (thought that waste does serve a purpose in enriching the soil.) What I have an issue with is the environmentalist position that somehow growing corn for ethanol is a viable alternative energy. The energy required to plant, fertilize and harvest the corn offsets much of the energy value. Also, using corn as fuel drives up food prices.

[coolbreeze]

Just another government scam that is rewarding corn growers with massive taxpayer subsities. A redistribution of wealth before obama if you will.

There is not an energy shortage. Nuclear power plants could easily create the necessary power generation to charge powerful and sleek electric cars nationwide. Note the Tesla below.

In addition, our coal can power the electricity needs of housing and industry for many centuries to come.

Furthermore, as long as there is oil, these and other technologies will continue to be mostly shelved while profits are still to be made on the oil.

Lastly, corn and ethanol to power an America soon to be 400 people million strong? What a joke.

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Originally Posted by coolbreeze

Just another government scam that is rewarding corn growers with massive taxpayer subsities. A redistribution of wealth before obama if you will.

There is not an energy shortage. Nuclear power plants could easily create the necessary power generation to charge powerful and sleek electric cars nationwide. Note the Tesla below.

In addition, our coal can power the electricity needs of housing and industry for many centuries to come.

Furthermore, as long as there is oil, these and other technologies will continue to be mostly shelved while profits are still to be made on the oil.

Lastly, corn and ethanol to power an America soon to be 400 people million strong? What a joke.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

I agree. And that is a nice looking, fancy golf cart you are showing there CB!

[coolbreeze]

Originally Posted by Remphoto

I agree. And that is a nice looking, fancy golf cart you are showing there CB!

Yes! I wouldn't mind having a couple of them around if I may say so myself.

Check out their site. Some cool stuff available. With large scale production, even us little people would be able to buy them!

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Originally Posted by coolbreeze

Yes! I wouldn't mind having a couple of them around if I may say so myself.

Check out their site. Some cool stuff available. With large scale production, even us little people would be able to buy them!

Bet you'd have a heck of a home electric bill keeping that charged! And no place to mount the golf bags and beer cooler. Seriously, it is nicely designed.

[coolbreeze]

Originally Posted by Remphoto

Bet you'd have a heck of a home electric bill keeping that charged! And no place to mount the golf bags and beer cooler. Seriously, it is nicely designed.

For the golf bag and cooler maybe the "Model S" will work!
Not sure what the electric bill would be, but not buying gas (or ethanol lol) should offset the cost.